Yea, you can find the cards alone for pretty cheap, and they've recently had alot of buy year card get $20 store gift card free kind of deals. I'm waiting to get the starter kit since I have a $20 off coupon from Game Crazy and the headset and Crimson Skies is a pretty decent bonus. That and I'm also trying to save up to buy a "decent", aka one that's cheap but not all messed up like mine and has S-Video, and another wireless router or something so I can leave the XBox upstairs when I want to play on Live.