Havamal
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Good point.[b said:Quote[/b] (Eon @ Feb. 07 2004,1:57)]When you and I can discuss the Havamal from a position of mutual knowledge like you and I can discuss the bible, then I'll worry about whether I'm meeting you halfway... <Grin>
-but it matches strongbads eyes so well...[b said:Quote[/b] ]master plan can you change your text color... your posts are impossible to read/
1. The Bible is 100% valid because GOD says so. That's what the Bible is, His Word. God's Word is true because He said it!! It's quite simple.[b said:Quote[/b] (Ultima Avatar @ Feb. 08 2004,8:10)]what the freak are you doing saying the Bible is 100% valid because the Bible says so?
And Psalms. Songs to God, songs of God's power. Some wisdom in them and prophecies regarding future events, but still...songs?
AND ORAL TRADITION...ORAL tradition. Please tell me WHAT could possibly stop talking and talking about the creation of the world or such stories from degrading from the truth they may have been at one point in time when some brainiac learns cuneiform and decides to write the words of the elders DOWN?
I mean, geez. So much possibility for corruption of what happened to enter. And how long was it before the Jews decided to write down what Moses said? Or the prophets, those prophets that they butcherd like cows?
And what makes Paul's letters infallible? Or Revelation? I mean, the guy just got roasted alive and stuck on a rock. It's really easy to say: "You know, this pain is so excruciating I think those big lights in my head are really visions from God, so here's some stuff God told me."
I dunno...I've been reading up on the documentary hypothesis a bit...[b said:Quote[/b] (Mahfrot @ Feb. 11 2004,6:46)]Moses wrote most of the words of the Pentateuch himself (so scholars agree), and words that weren't penned directly by him were written by people close to him (in time and proximity).
1. If he said it then why is it written down in a bloody book, edited and revised by humans for hundreds of years? Talk about a cruddy messenger.[b said:Quote[/b] (Mahfrot @ Feb. 11 2004,11:46)]The Bible is 100% valid because GOD says so. That's what the Bible is, His Word. God's Word is true because He said it!! It's quite simple.
As for your other questions and ponderings, I believe there comes a point in time where you have to stop trying to figure out God and instead accept Him as who He is...waaaay bigger and much more incomprehensible than what you are attributing him. He's older, has been around longer and, oh yea, He made you.
Through translations it has.[b said:Quote[/b] ]Eon if i remember correctly the Bible is exactly the same words found in the dead sea scrolls provin that it has not been revised.
Where did he say the whole Bible is true? Where did he say the Bible is his word? Paul did say that all scripture is god breathed but he was talking about the tanach.[b said:Quote[/b] ]The Bible is 100% valid because GOD says so. That's what the Bible is, His Word. God's Word is true because He said it!! It's quite simple.
hmm, do I sense sarcasm? hehe, I thought if he told you he was perfect and right, that would be circular reasoning...[b said:Quote[/b] ]1. A word from the man himself would probably do it. If he's infalliable then he should be able to convince little old me right handily. Oh wait, his voice would cause my heart and head to shatter, wouldn't it? Handy that...
He is God who created everything, advantage where?[b said:Quote[/b] ]2. What is anyone's motivation for lying? To place himself in a position of advantage.
True nothing else is perfect, but thats against the standard God made. As far as experience, no I don't have a lot of experience with Perfection, but I do talk to a perfect God who loves me back, so I guess that counts as experience.[b said:Quote[/b] ]Nobody else is perfect - in the whole of pantheistic mythology, in the whole of science and in the realm of legend. Everything else is limited, flawed and subject to error. Why would you believe he was perfect - you've no experience with the concept!