Christianity? Absolutely

kevman4christ

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There sure are a lot of religions out there today. You’ve got Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, etc. So obviously Christianity is just another “ism,” right?

The truth is Christianity happens to be unique among the world’s religions for several important reasons. Not the least of which happens to be that Christianity, unlike other religions, is historic and evidential. The fact is, Jesus Himself is a figure of history. He was, of course, born in Bethlehem in Judea during the reign of Caesar Augustus, and was put to death by Pontius Pilate, a first century Roman Governor. And, more importantly, the testimony of his life, death, and resurrection happened to come to us by way of eyewitness accounts (2 Pet. 1:16; 1 John 1:1-4). Christianity therefore is a historical faith, and its truth claims can be evaluated by examining the facts and testimony of history. None of the other religions of the world can claim this kind of historical support.

Another unique feature of Christianity is that its founder claimed to be God. Of the great religious leaders of the world (Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster, Lao Tzu, Mohammed) only Jesus claimed to be God in human flesh (John 8:58). And this is not an empty claim because it is supported by Christ’s historically verifiable resurrection from the dead (1 Cor. 15:3-8). Other religions like Buddhism and Islam claim miracles in support of their faith, but unlike Christianity, these miracles lack historical verification.

An additional feature which sets Christianity apart from the other religions is that its beliefs system happens to be coherent. Some Christian doctrines may transcend logical categories — and even appear paradoxical — but unlike the religions of the east, they are not irrational or absurd. Oh, and before I forget, the Christian faith is unique in that it can account for the vast array of phenomena which we encounter in life — things like the laws of science, the universal laws of logic, ethical norms, love, meaning in life, and, of course, the problem of evil. So to state it philosophically, the Christian faith corresponds to the present state of affairs.
 
Jews, and Muslums believe there is a jesus, the only difference is they see him as a prophet, not the son of god.
Christs historical resurrection?
If it was a historical fact that christ came back from the dead, there would be proof, and there would be alot more christians in the world. If it was a fact there would only be one religion. If u show a sane person a circle they wouldn't see a square, would they. So if the world had historical proof about jesus, people coulsn't say they don't believe in him, can they.
 
I see your point

Yes, I understand your view but it is rather narrow. There is many many more places in which I can give you proof. I will give more examples as we get more individuals in here with their point of views.
 
As a Christian, you base everything you believe in on Faith.

How do you dispel the existence of other gods while maintaining the belief in yours?
 
And, since you seem to know a lot about other religions, I have a question that is yet to be answered. Do any of the other religions offer a 100% guarantee of what will happen when you die?

Gen
 
I am not sure about the years and maybe you could answer my question I know judism has been around for very long(old testament) but how old are other religons like Hinduism Buddaism Muslim Christianty. And about miracles I seem them everyday.. In everyway... Conwensidences... Never...
 
Genesis1315 said:
And, since you seem to know a lot about other religions, I have a question that is yet to be answered. Do any of the other religions offer a 100% guarantee of what will happen when you die?

Gen

Sorry, I was pretty sure I had covered this in a previous thread.

Every religion offers a reward that it balances with a punishment.

Different religions offer different rewards, different religions offer different views of an afterlife.

Buddhims offers a 100% guarantee of reincarnation.

Hinduism offers a 100% guarantee of the mahaprasthana, or great journey.

Islam offers a 100% guarantee of Paradise (eternal delight) or Hell (eternal torment).

Wicca offers a 100% guarantee of residence in the Summerlands before reincarnation.

Depending on one's flavor of Judaism, there is a 100% guarantee of either a place similar to Christian heaven, reincarnation or resurrection at the coming of the messiah.

You see where I'm going here, I could go on and on.

Christianity, like the religions above, gives you a 100% guarantee of what happens after death...DEPENDING ON WHAT SECT YOU CHOOSE TO FOLLOW.

Some Christians believe in going to Heaven, some believe in Limbo, some believe in "sleeping" in the ground until the resurrection, etc. etc.

So, please, forgive me if your 100% guarantee doesn't impress me much. As I've stated, your guarantee is really no different than another relgion's.
 
Here is my question a little more indepth.

Christianity - 100% sure going to heaven if you have accepted Christ
Wicca - may not necessarily go to Summerland, it depends on how well you did.
Buddism (or other reincarnation based religions) - yes, you will be coming back, but again, depends on how you did.
Islam - Again, works based. May or may not be appeasing to Allah.

So this is where I am stuck. (sorry to keep rehashing this, but I am just not clear on it). To me, it looks like Christianity gives the 100% sure thing.

I don't mind admitting I am wrong on this (DV please mark the calendar :D ) I just want to have a clear understanding of it.

and kevman - Welcome to RD (sorry it is a bit late) Just so there is no uncertainty, I am saved and Love the Lord with all my Heart. I am also an Analyst, which makes things pretty fun with a faith based religion. My testimony is on here (I think in Bible Study) please feel free to read at your convenience. Thanks for joining us and if you have any questions, please feel free to PM me.

Gen
 
Shintoism - ancestors view and watch over their descendants. Their Kami live in all manner of things - animals, rocks, streams, swords.

You are 100% guaranteed to become a Kami once you die.

And don't you see that Christianity offers a lot less than 100% - given the discussions we've had in previous threads, you admit that there are a lot of Christians who are getting it wrong and who won't be going to heaven.

It's the same with other religions.
 
Next up...

Christianity is unique in the fact that it is the ONLY faith which is not a religion- as a 'religion'- by definition means "to be bound" by rules and regulations and rituals in order that one MAY attain salvation. (whatever their definition of salvation may be)
This is in stark contrast to the teachings of THE most anti-religious person there ever lived- Jesus the Christ.
Jesus taught that the truth would SET YOU FREE and that it would be faith ALONE in His sacrificial death and resurrection for our sins which would save us and NOT our good deeds.

"For it is by God's grace that you have been saved, through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's GIFT, so that noone can boast about it." (Ephesians 2: 8-9)

This means that (although good in themselves and recommended) it is NOT by attending 'church', being baptised** or even believing in God! (Satan is not an atheist himself!)
To put it plainly: We are saved by faith and DEMONSTRATED by good works- but it isn't the works themselves that actually save us.

"His choice is based on His grace, not on what they have done. For if God's choice was based on what people do, then His grace would not be real grace." (Romans 11:6)

You see, religion is humanity trying to reach God by their own efforts..whilst Christianity is God paying the price Himself- in essence- reaching down to us..it is a RELATIONSHIP with our creator.

Still not convinced? Has religion still got a strangle-hold on you?..then consider Isaiah 64:6 :

"ALL of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our rightous acts are like filthy rags."

Did you note that it isn't just our sins that are filthy to God..but even our RIGHTOUSNESS? You see, Gods standard is HIMSELF, who is THE epitome of Holiness and purity.

"God is Light and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1John 1:5) So, to a pure a Holy and perfect God, ANY sin/darkness would naturally be alien and repugnant to Him..so, humanly speaking, it IS impossible for us to be saved..THAT is why God demonstrated His love for us by coming down in human form as the Lord Jesus Christ.

The 10 commandments and other laws were designed to show us that we are sinners..there is NO way any human could keep all of them-

For example: How many things do you have to steal (regardless of value) in order to be a thief?
-Just one.
How many lies do you have to tell (no matter how "big" it is) to be a liar?
- Just one.
So how many sins does it take for us to be a sinner?
-Just one.

These were just two of the ten commandments..and every one of us has broken them all!
"For whoever shall keep the whole law and stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. (James 2:10)

Therefore, if you are trying to live by the law you shall die by it- for it is humanly impossible to keep.

Since every single person is a sinner, that is, we have all rebelled against God's wishes, so, every single person is doomed to an eternity in hell- separated from light and love- forever.
It doesn't have to be this way though- God loves us so much that He supplied a solution.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23)

Jesus, being God AND man, was the ONLY one who could be perfect and keep the commandments- and since He did- He satisfied The Law and then on the cross He bore the punishment of our sins- ALL OF THEM, past, present and future. and then rose again to show that He had conquored death for us and as a promise to all those who trust in His sacrifice for our sins- that they too will rise from the dead and into eternity with God. This is the gospel.
 
Jesus taught that the truth would SET YOU FREE and that it would be faith ALONE in His sacrificial death and resurrection for our sins which would save us and NOT our good deeds.

I know I'm just a heretic unbeliever - but isn't that there a rule?

And in other places here there are arguments for others. You must have done good works - for faith without works is a tree in the desert. Or something.

Then there are those who say you must have confessed all sins to a priest to have them forgiven. Still others say you must just have repented of them in your heart. Still others claim you must be a member of juuuuust the right sect.
 
Eon

You are good at arguments I will give you that but one thing still remains. You have yet to prove to me otherwise. If we get into an argument over symantecs this would be very fun.
 
Thank you Eon. Based on the Bible, Christianity still seems pretty clear, but I will admit, I was wrong. There are now two that offer a 100% guarantee.

Gen
 
Christianity is unique because it is God reaching for man, where the others are man reaching for God. The truth is that no man ever sought God first, man fell and God made a way of escape for all who choose.
 
Genesis1315 said:
Here is my question a little more indepth.

Christianity - 100% sure going to heaven if you have accepted Christ
Wicca - may not necessarily go to Summerland, it depends on how well you did.
Buddism (or other reincarnation based religions) - yes, you will be coming back, but again, depends on how you did.
Islam - Again, works based. May or may not be appeasing to Allah.

So this is where I am stuck. (sorry to keep rehashing this, but I am just not clear on it). To me, it looks like Christianity gives the 100% sure thing.

I don't mind admitting I am wrong on this (DV please mark the calendar :D ) I just want to have a clear understanding of it.

and kevman - Welcome to RD (sorry it is a bit late) Just so there is no uncertainty, I am saved and Love the Lord with all my Heart. I am also an Analyst, which makes things pretty fun with a faith based religion. My testimony is on here (I think in Bible Study) please feel free to read at your convenience. Thanks for joining us and if you have any questions, please feel free to PM me.

Gen


As I said, your 100% guarantee is only good for YOUR interpretation of Christianity. Ask a Roman Catholic and I doubt your view of a guaranteed after life will match theirs.

So once more, Christianity doesn't offer anything better, only something different.

Gen, please please please don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like the reason you chose Christianity had more to do with the reward than anything else.
 
kevman4christ said:
Christianity is unique in the fact that it is the ONLY faith which is not a religion- as a 'religion'- by definition means "to be bound" by rules and regulations and rituals in order that one MAY attain salvation.

Interesting..where did you get this definition of religion?

The dictionaries I checked didn't define religion that way at all.

Christianity is most definately a religion, even going by your definition. ALL religions have rules, even Christianity. Isn't that why there is a hell?
 
James said:
Christianity is unique because it is God reaching for man, where the others are man reaching for God. The truth is that no man ever sought God first, man fell and God made a way of escape for all who choose.

Actually most other religions can be interpreted as god/nature/whatever reaching out for man as well.

Any one in particular you feel doesn't meet this guidline?
 
*Each of these systems has sects with differing beliefs. The description given here focuses on the heart of that system. Other major religions, such as Judaism, could be discussed, but for brevity, I have chosen these.

Hinduism

Most Hindus worship one Being of ultimate oneness (Brahman) through infinite representations of gods and goddesses, over 300,000 of them. These various manifestations of gods and goddesses become incarnate within idols, temples, gurus, rivers, animals, etc.
Hindus see their position in this present life as based on their actions in a previous life. If their behavior before was evil, they might experience tremendous hardships in this life. A Hindu's goal is to become free from the law of karma...to be free from continuous reincarnations.
There are three possible ways to end this cycle of karma: 1. Be lovingly devoted to any of the Hindu gods or goddesses; 2. Grow in knowledge through meditation of Brahman (oneness)...to realize that circumstances in life are not real, that selfhood is an illusion and only Brahman is real; 3. Be dedicated to various religious ceremonies and rites.
In Hinduism, a person has the freedom to choose how to work toward spiritual perfection. Hinduism also has a possible explanation for the suffering and evil in the world. According to Hinduism, the suffering anyone experiences, whether it is sickness or starvation or a disaster, is due that person because of their own evil actions, usually from a previous lifetime. Only the soul matters which will one day be free of the cycle of rebirths and be at rest.

New Age

New Age promotes the development of the person's own power or divinity. When referring to God, a follower of New Age is not talking about a transcendent, personal God who created the universe, but is referring to a higher consciousness within themselves. A person in New Age would see themselves as God, the cosmos, the universe. In fact, everything that the person sees, hears, feels or imagines is to be considered divine.
Highly eclectic, New Age presents itself as a collection of ancient spiritual traditions. It acknowledges many gods and goddesses, as in Hinduism. The Earth is viewed as the source of all spirituality, and has its own intelligence, emotions and deity. But superseding all is self. Self is the originator, controller and God of all. There is no reality outside of what the person determines.
New Age teaches a wide array of eastern mysticism and spiritual, metaphysical and psychic techniques, such as breathing exercises, chanting, drumming, meditating...to develop an altered consciousness and one's own divinity.
Anything negative a person experiences (failures, sadness, anger, selfishness, hurt) is considered an illusion. Believing themselves to be completely sovereign over their life, nothing about their life is wrong, negative or painful. Eventually a person develops spiritually to the degree that there is no objective, external reality. A person, becoming a god, creates their own reality.

Buddhism

Buddhists do not worship any gods or God. People outside of Buddhism often think that Buddhists worship the Buddha. However, the Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) never claimed to be divine, but rather he is viewed by Buddhists as having attained what they are also striving to attain, which is spiritual enlightenment and, with it, freedom from the continuous cycle of life and death. Most Buddhists believe a person has countless rebirths, which inevitably include suffering. A Buddhist seeks to end these rebirths. Buddhists believe it is a person's cravings, aversion and delusion that cause these rebirths. Therefore, the goal of a Buddhist is to purify one's heart and to let go of all yearnings toward sensual desires and the attachment to oneself.
Buddhists follow a list of religious principles and very dedicated meditation. When a Buddhist meditates it is not the same as praying or focusing on a god, it is more of a self-discipline. Through practiced meditation a person may reach Nirvana -- "the blowing out" of the flame of desire.
Buddhism provides something that is true of most world religions: disciplines, values and directives that a person may want to live by.

Islam

Muslims believe there is the one almighty God, named Allah, who is infinitely superior to and transcendent from humankind. Allah is viewed as the creator of the universe and the source of all good and all evil. Everything that happens is Allah's will. He is a powerful and strict judge, who will be merciful toward followers depending on the sufficiency of their life's good works and religious devotion. A follower's relationship with Allah is as a servant to Allah.
Though a Muslim honors several prophets, Muhammad is considered the last prophet and his words and lifestyle are that person's authority. To be a Muslim, one has to follow five religious duties: 1. Repeat a creed about Allah and Muhammad; 2. Recite certain prayers in Arabic five times a day; 3. Give to the needy; 4. One month each year, fast from food, drink, sex and smoking from sunrise to sunset; 5. Pilgrimage once in one's lifetime to worship at a shrine in Mecca. At death -- based on one's faithfulness to these duties -- a Muslim hopes to enter Paradise, a place of sensual pleasure. If not, they will be eternally punished in hell.
For many people, Islam matches their expectations about religion and deity. Islam teaches that there is one supreme God, who is worshiped through good deeds and disciplined religious rituals. After death a person is rewarded or punished according to their religious devotion.




Christianity -- faith in Jesus Christ

Christians believe in a loving God who has revealed himself and can be personally known in this life. With Jesus Christ, the person's focus is not on religious rituals or performing good works, but on enjoying a relationship with God and growing to know him better.
Faith in Jesus Christ himself, not just in his teachings, is how the Christian experiences joy and a meaningful life. In his life on Earth, Jesus did not identify himself as a prophet pointing to God or as a teacher of enlightenment. Rather, Jesus claimed to be God in human form. He performed miracles, forgave people of their sin and said that anyone who believed in him would have eternal life. He made statements like, "I am the light of the world; he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."1
Christians regard the Bible as God's written message to humankind. In addition to its being an historical record of Jesus' life and miracles, the Bible reveals God's personality, his love and truth, and how one can have a relationship with him.
Whatever circumstances a Christian is dealing with in their life, they can confidently turn to a wise and powerful God who genuinely loves them. They believe that God answers prayer and that life takes on meaning as they live to honor him.

Is there a difference?

In looking at these major belief systems and their views of God, we find tremendous diversity:

• Hindus believe in 300,000 gods.
• Buddhists say there is no deity.
• New Age followers believe they are God.
• Muslims believe in a powerful but unknowable God.
• Christians believe in a God who is loving and approachable.

Are all religions worshiping the same God? Let's consider that. New Age teaches that everyone should come to center on a cosmic consciousness, but it would require Islam to give up their one God, Hinduism to give up their numerous gods, and Buddhism to establish that there is a God.
The world's major religions (Hinduism, New Age, Buddhism, Islam, following Jesus Christ) are each quite unique. And of these one affirms that there is a personal, loving God who can be known, now in this life. Jesus Christ spoke of a God who welcomes us into a relationship with him and comes along side us as a comforter, counselor and powerful God who loves us.
In Hinduism a person is on their own trying to gain release from karma. In New Age a person is working at their own divinity. In Buddhism it is an individual quest at being free from desire. And in Islam, the individual follows religious laws for the sake of paradise after death. In Jesus' teaching, you see a personal relationship with a personal God -- a relationship that carries over into the next life.
 
I see this discussion like a kid in a candy shop.

I only have enough money to buy one piece of candy, so which one will it be?

They're all candy, but some are caramal, some are made of chocolate, some have nuts, some don't.

In the end, they're all still candy.

Each religion can differentiate itself from others. As you've pointed out, Christianity has a personal relationship with one God (I won't get into the trinitarian aspect). At the end of the day, it's just one of many religions. Most of you are Christian because you've grown up in a predominately Christian geographic area. If you had been born in another country, you would most probably have followed the religion that dominated that geographic region.

Is one religion better than another? I say, no.

EDITED TO ADD...

If Christianity was undoubtedly, indisputably, undeniably the ONE TRUE RELIGION, then how do you account for the followers of a myriad of other religions? Why don't they recognize the "correctness" of Christianity? Whatever reason you give, couldn't you apply that answer to you regarding their religion?
 
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Throwing my 2 cents in the tip jar...

Christianity is unique in the fact that it is the ONLY faith which is not a religion- as a 'religion'- by definition means "to be bound" by rules and regulations and rituals in order that one MAY attain salvation. (whatever their definition of salvation may be)
No offense, but this is a little hard to swallow. I believe that what you describe is what Jesus intended, and I think it's how we Christians would like to look at our faith...but that's certainly not what we have today. If it was, we wouldn't have different denominations split apart by differences in theology, emphasis or "style". That last one is the tricky one, all these "unwritten" rules over how a service should progress, what kind of music should and should not be performed, hands in the air or knees on the bench, three point sermon or open discussion and prayer/praise.

Granted, none of those "style" things have to be performed to guarantee your salvation as we've been discussing, but they do have affect on whether or not you are accepted into the church community, and therefore, to an outsider, they are "rules".

The theology and emphasis ones are the biggies though, things like baptism as a requirement or not, confession, give yourself to God once and you're saved for life vs. you can do things so bad that you can lose your salvation, speaking in tounges. If you honestly look at Christianity world-wide, we definitely are not "united in Christ".

So while I agree with you - I think this is what Jesus wanted, and I think deep down it's what a lot of Christians want - to an outsider looking in, from the way we act, it definitely looks like there are a lot of "rules" and "requirements" to be "saved".
 
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