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The officers have been busy gearing up for the fall raiding season! As you may know, we’ve been gathering the mats needed to push into new 25 man content, including SSC and The Eye.
We have spent a lot of time over the past two weeks both revising the gear requirements Kara, as well as creating a new set of requirements for the 25 man content. These numbers are not arbitrary numbers we chose. All classes can meet their kara numbers by running level 70 non heroic instances. The 25 man reqs are significantly higher. You will be able to meet these numbers with a mix of crafted items, heroic drops, turning in badges, and using kara gear.
Just because your gear doesn’t meet the requirements does not mean you can never run kara. But we will be inviting people who meet the requirements before those who do not.
Kara gear requirements:
25 Man gear requirements:
Below is a short FAQ written by Gilga. This should answer most questions…
1) Will not having my gear to those standards mean that I can never go to Kara?
No. What it means is that if there are two people who are available and who both want the same slot for a given raid, the person who meets the requirements will be chosen over the person who doesn't. If you are available at the right time and there is a need for your class/role, you can still be invited. But meeting the requirements gives you a much better shot at being invited to any given raid, and not meeting the requirements is an unquestionable reason for not being invited or for being replaced on any team, at any time.
2) Do these 25-man requirements mean that I'm not going to get to go to Gruul's Lair anymore?
No. For Gruul's Lair only, we will continue to pick teams based on signups and random rolls as discussed See Icthus's post Raiding Invites
3) How am I supposed to meet these requirements without any Kara gear?
The Kara requirements were intentionally designed to be achievable without stepping foot in Karazhan. That doesn't mean that they are easy. But it is possible to get to the requirements through a little bit of hard work on instance teams but also entirely through solo/quest/faction rewards, BoE items, and PvP rewards. At least one officer met the requirements entirely through solo and non-dungeon quest work.
4) Person X has the same class and spec as me and a month ago had worse gear than me but they're getting on Kara teams and I never am so now their gear is way better than mine and I'm left behind. Not fair!
There are a multitude of factors at play ... being available when invites going out being a large one. We try to be fair with schedules and signups but frankly, someone who lucks into being available at the right time will have an advantage that it's hard to avoid. We will be coming out with new teams soon that attempt to be as fair as possible in giving opportunities to the 120+ level 70s in Redeemed. But in the end-game, luck is a factor across the board. Just talk to anyone who's not gotten their class drop, week after week, when someone else gets it their very first run.
5) Person Y doesn't meet anywhere close to the 25-Man specs but they're always on the team and I never am. Not fair!Right now, very few guildies meet the requirements, yet we are still pushing ahead on progression. The teams will be picked to try to give us the best shot at progression, which may mean that the raid needs an under geared pally healer more than an uber shadow priest. The raid leader may pick a rogue who does not have the top gear but who consistently tops the damage meters over someone with better gear. The raid leader may pick someone who has shown effective use of vent and has a good mic in a communications-intensive boss fight over someone who performs great but can only speak in the chat window. 25-man teams will be picked based on progress. See the post mentioned in #2 above -- even as we move to different teams after the summer, the philosophy remains the same.
6) Hey, these are harder requirements than they used to be! Not fair!
We didn't have requirements flushed out for a number of classes, so we've added and tweaked things but do not believe that any substantial change has been met. If anything, we've made it more fair across all classes to become Kara-qualified. The 25-man requirements are substantially more difficult by design, but we didn't have 25-man requirements before.
Just to let you know what’s coming down the pipe, we will be rolling out “Fall Kara Raid Teams” this week. The season will begin with the instance reset on September 4th. More info to come…
Around the same time, we will be making our first attempts on Hydross, Lurker, and Void Reaver. We are in the process of putting together a “Progression Team”. Players on the progression team will be chosen based on gear, raid performance, class skill, and attitude. Once we begin downing bosses, we will open sign-ups for the 25 man content.
So that’s what’s going on! Again, lots of info will be coming out in the next week. We are in 26th place of all the alliance guilds on Stonemaul. Not bad considering we only have 2 official raid nights a week! Keep up the great work, the next few months are going to be a blast!
The officers have been busy gearing up for the fall raiding season! As you may know, we’ve been gathering the mats needed to push into new 25 man content, including SSC and The Eye.
We have spent a lot of time over the past two weeks both revising the gear requirements Kara, as well as creating a new set of requirements for the 25 man content. These numbers are not arbitrary numbers we chose. All classes can meet their kara numbers by running level 70 non heroic instances. The 25 man reqs are significantly higher. You will be able to meet these numbers with a mix of crafted items, heroic drops, turning in badges, and using kara gear.
Just because your gear doesn’t meet the requirements does not mean you can never run kara. But we will be inviting people who meet the requirements before those who do not.
Kara gear requirements:
25 Man gear requirements:
Below is a short FAQ written by Gilga. This should answer most questions…
1) Will not having my gear to those standards mean that I can never go to Kara?
No. What it means is that if there are two people who are available and who both want the same slot for a given raid, the person who meets the requirements will be chosen over the person who doesn't. If you are available at the right time and there is a need for your class/role, you can still be invited. But meeting the requirements gives you a much better shot at being invited to any given raid, and not meeting the requirements is an unquestionable reason for not being invited or for being replaced on any team, at any time.
2) Do these 25-man requirements mean that I'm not going to get to go to Gruul's Lair anymore?
No. For Gruul's Lair only, we will continue to pick teams based on signups and random rolls as discussed See Icthus's post Raiding Invites
3) How am I supposed to meet these requirements without any Kara gear?
The Kara requirements were intentionally designed to be achievable without stepping foot in Karazhan. That doesn't mean that they are easy. But it is possible to get to the requirements through a little bit of hard work on instance teams but also entirely through solo/quest/faction rewards, BoE items, and PvP rewards. At least one officer met the requirements entirely through solo and non-dungeon quest work.
4) Person X has the same class and spec as me and a month ago had worse gear than me but they're getting on Kara teams and I never am so now their gear is way better than mine and I'm left behind. Not fair!
There are a multitude of factors at play ... being available when invites going out being a large one. We try to be fair with schedules and signups but frankly, someone who lucks into being available at the right time will have an advantage that it's hard to avoid. We will be coming out with new teams soon that attempt to be as fair as possible in giving opportunities to the 120+ level 70s in Redeemed. But in the end-game, luck is a factor across the board. Just talk to anyone who's not gotten their class drop, week after week, when someone else gets it their very first run.
5) Person Y doesn't meet anywhere close to the 25-Man specs but they're always on the team and I never am. Not fair!Right now, very few guildies meet the requirements, yet we are still pushing ahead on progression. The teams will be picked to try to give us the best shot at progression, which may mean that the raid needs an under geared pally healer more than an uber shadow priest. The raid leader may pick a rogue who does not have the top gear but who consistently tops the damage meters over someone with better gear. The raid leader may pick someone who has shown effective use of vent and has a good mic in a communications-intensive boss fight over someone who performs great but can only speak in the chat window. 25-man teams will be picked based on progress. See the post mentioned in #2 above -- even as we move to different teams after the summer, the philosophy remains the same.
6) Hey, these are harder requirements than they used to be! Not fair!
We didn't have requirements flushed out for a number of classes, so we've added and tweaked things but do not believe that any substantial change has been met. If anything, we've made it more fair across all classes to become Kara-qualified. The 25-man requirements are substantially more difficult by design, but we didn't have 25-man requirements before.
Just to let you know what’s coming down the pipe, we will be rolling out “Fall Kara Raid Teams” this week. The season will begin with the instance reset on September 4th. More info to come…
Around the same time, we will be making our first attempts on Hydross, Lurker, and Void Reaver. We are in the process of putting together a “Progression Team”. Players on the progression team will be chosen based on gear, raid performance, class skill, and attitude. Once we begin downing bosses, we will open sign-ups for the 25 man content.
So that’s what’s going on! Again, lots of info will be coming out in the next week. We are in 26th place of all the alliance guilds on Stonemaul. Not bad considering we only have 2 official raid nights a week! Keep up the great work, the next few months are going to be a blast!