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There's a lot going on against modern Judaism and modern Christianity, namely that they still hate each other.
Oh, sure, you're going to deny that, but it's the truth, and my question is this: why are we in this animosity still?
Jews, for the most part, deny Jesus as anything other than a man, and from what I've been researching, deny him as even anything CLOSE to the man the Bible makes him out to be.
Christians, of course, view him as God, part of the Trinity, Son of God, Lord and Savior, Messiah, Salvation Incarnate and such. They think Jesus is the Moshiach, the Jewish messiah. Jews say, "Nah. Jesus is the son of an adulterous or fornicating relationship, between this chick, Miriam (Mary), and some Greek or Roman soldier. Actually, chances are he's a stained child, meaning he was conceived during some rather kinky happenings, like Miriam being on her rag while Jesus is being made. Virgin? HER? Ha! God? Touch a woman? Make a son? Ha! Obviously, you Christians haven't read enough of the Talmud to understand who the moshiach will be: he'll be a warrior, a warring king, a politician who will bring all the Jews to Jerusalem, rebuild the Temple, reinstitute sacrifice and then God will be happy with us, and all the world will be wonderful for Jews."
Technically, a guy after Jesus came closer to being the moshiach. Jesus did a lot of prophecies we say mean that he's the messiah, but the Jews say we just misinterpret them, since we like English rather than the original Hebrew and Aramaic. And we're like, "No, you desert hounds! Go back to your holes or we'll do jihad on you! Or a Crusade! You want another Crusade? Didn't think so."
That's the extent of civil relationships between Christians and Jews: minimal tolerance.
Why? Why do we hate each other so much still?
Is there any hope for reconciliation?
I say no. But I'm doing a scholarship where they want me to say yes, and I'd love input from other people who have reasons why it would be yes, and for discussion purposes here, why the answer would be no.
I say no, because we believe polar opposites about the same man. Jews say he was a sorcerer who led the people into idolatry, and since a lot of guys were named Yeshu back then, Josephus understandably mixed up the Christian Christ with some other guy. Also, he wasn't crucified: the Sanhedrin stoned this guy. So we have two totally different looks at this guy.
That's reason number one. Other reason is modern media. "Why did the Jews kill Christ?" "We didn't, dangit! This is just another anti-semitic movement!" "Another outrageous explosion from the Christ-killers protesting the release of Gibson's documentary, The Passion of the Christ. Back to you, Jill."
So we have the modern media to help foster the hate. "Israelis kill some more Palestinians, who in return bomb them again. And the fight continues. Thank God we're in America, where everyone KNOWS just who killed Christ."
And of course, smart, read Christians say that everybody killed Christ, because everybody's sins put him on the cross and such and such.
And we're supposed to be peaceful with each other? With replacement theology?
That's the third factor that tells me: the only way we'll ever get along is when Mr. Crowley comes back to take over the world. Real quick: the only moshiach I see that really fulfills the Jewish idea of him is the Antichrist, some guy who will probably unite the Jewish world and the world at large by being a political bullet, and then the Jews will be like: "SEE? We have peace! Praise G-d!" And then the tribulation and whatnot if you believe everything in Revelation. Good going, Messiah.
Replacement theology is this: the Christians say that the Jews have fallen out of favor in God's eyes, and all the blessings are in the hands of Christians now, because the Jews have had two thousand years to screw around and generally tick God off and now that a better religion has come up that actually follows the Three True Gods, Christians get it all. Judaism, of course, despises this, as anyone would. Perfect Biblical example:
Esau and Jacob. "Say, Jacob, give me some stew will ya?" "Hmm. Sure. First, give me your birthright." "WTF? JUST GIVE ME SOME FOOD!" "No." "I'll kill you." "I'll tell Dad." "Blast it! All right, here! There's my birthright!" "Whee! Have some food." "Ingrate."
Jacob and Isach. "Hey, Dad, I'm going to sew goat hair onto my arms with my Mom's deceptive help and be REALLY righteous and deceive your poor blind self into thinking I'm your eldest son, is that cool?" "The Cheezits are coming!" "Ha ha! You're the best. So bless me, will ya Pa?" Huh?" "Bless me." "Oh...come closer so I can feel your harm, which obviously has absolutely no different texture for being wool than it would be if it were arm hair, because everyone knows that arm hair and wool feel exactly the same. ...Okay, you're Esau, since the wool feels just like arm hair, and your voice, despite youthfulness, must be Esau's. Achoo." "Bless you." "Ha! I fooled you!" "Ha ha. You were always so funny, Dad. Say, uh, could you bless me now?" "Sure. God bless this child. Amen." "Thanks Pop."
Esau and Isach: "Say, Dad, bless me." "(Wary, now) What is it now Esau?" "Uh...here's your food, will you bless me?" "You already fed me and I already blessed you. Wait. Let me feel your arms. Arm hair! I knew the other arm felt different!" "Other arm?" "Your brother's! He impersonated you and I blessed him." "Dad...let's think this through logically. You can't bless a fraud. All you have to do is curse Jacob for lying, and curse Rachel, too, that stupid sow, and just bless me as your real, loving, un-deceiving son." "Oh...but that's not in the Bible, because a lot of the Bible's illogical, so you'll just have to kill your brother in a vengeful fury." "(Grumble)"
So we all know what it's like to have our stuff jacked from us. The Jews aren't liking this popular quiet belief amongst Christians that say because God hates the Jews so much now He's just going to bless Christians.
These three reasons, and loads more (if any of y'all wanan provide some, go right on ahead), are why I believe we'll never get along until we're all controlled by Nero Resurrected.
Why COULD we get along?
There's a lot going on against modern Judaism and modern Christianity, namely that they still hate each other.
Oh, sure, you're going to deny that, but it's the truth, and my question is this: why are we in this animosity still?
Jews, for the most part, deny Jesus as anything other than a man, and from what I've been researching, deny him as even anything CLOSE to the man the Bible makes him out to be.
Christians, of course, view him as God, part of the Trinity, Son of God, Lord and Savior, Messiah, Salvation Incarnate and such. They think Jesus is the Moshiach, the Jewish messiah. Jews say, "Nah. Jesus is the son of an adulterous or fornicating relationship, between this chick, Miriam (Mary), and some Greek or Roman soldier. Actually, chances are he's a stained child, meaning he was conceived during some rather kinky happenings, like Miriam being on her rag while Jesus is being made. Virgin? HER? Ha! God? Touch a woman? Make a son? Ha! Obviously, you Christians haven't read enough of the Talmud to understand who the moshiach will be: he'll be a warrior, a warring king, a politician who will bring all the Jews to Jerusalem, rebuild the Temple, reinstitute sacrifice and then God will be happy with us, and all the world will be wonderful for Jews."
Technically, a guy after Jesus came closer to being the moshiach. Jesus did a lot of prophecies we say mean that he's the messiah, but the Jews say we just misinterpret them, since we like English rather than the original Hebrew and Aramaic. And we're like, "No, you desert hounds! Go back to your holes or we'll do jihad on you! Or a Crusade! You want another Crusade? Didn't think so."
That's the extent of civil relationships between Christians and Jews: minimal tolerance.
Why? Why do we hate each other so much still?
Is there any hope for reconciliation?
I say no. But I'm doing a scholarship where they want me to say yes, and I'd love input from other people who have reasons why it would be yes, and for discussion purposes here, why the answer would be no.
I say no, because we believe polar opposites about the same man. Jews say he was a sorcerer who led the people into idolatry, and since a lot of guys were named Yeshu back then, Josephus understandably mixed up the Christian Christ with some other guy. Also, he wasn't crucified: the Sanhedrin stoned this guy. So we have two totally different looks at this guy.
That's reason number one. Other reason is modern media. "Why did the Jews kill Christ?" "We didn't, dangit! This is just another anti-semitic movement!" "Another outrageous explosion from the Christ-killers protesting the release of Gibson's documentary, The Passion of the Christ. Back to you, Jill."
So we have the modern media to help foster the hate. "Israelis kill some more Palestinians, who in return bomb them again. And the fight continues. Thank God we're in America, where everyone KNOWS just who killed Christ."
And of course, smart, read Christians say that everybody killed Christ, because everybody's sins put him on the cross and such and such.
And we're supposed to be peaceful with each other? With replacement theology?
That's the third factor that tells me: the only way we'll ever get along is when Mr. Crowley comes back to take over the world. Real quick: the only moshiach I see that really fulfills the Jewish idea of him is the Antichrist, some guy who will probably unite the Jewish world and the world at large by being a political bullet, and then the Jews will be like: "SEE? We have peace! Praise G-d!" And then the tribulation and whatnot if you believe everything in Revelation. Good going, Messiah.
Replacement theology is this: the Christians say that the Jews have fallen out of favor in God's eyes, and all the blessings are in the hands of Christians now, because the Jews have had two thousand years to screw around and generally tick God off and now that a better religion has come up that actually follows the Three True Gods, Christians get it all. Judaism, of course, despises this, as anyone would. Perfect Biblical example:
Esau and Jacob. "Say, Jacob, give me some stew will ya?" "Hmm. Sure. First, give me your birthright." "WTF? JUST GIVE ME SOME FOOD!" "No." "I'll kill you." "I'll tell Dad." "Blast it! All right, here! There's my birthright!" "Whee! Have some food." "Ingrate."
Jacob and Isach. "Hey, Dad, I'm going to sew goat hair onto my arms with my Mom's deceptive help and be REALLY righteous and deceive your poor blind self into thinking I'm your eldest son, is that cool?" "The Cheezits are coming!" "Ha ha! You're the best. So bless me, will ya Pa?" Huh?" "Bless me." "Oh...come closer so I can feel your harm, which obviously has absolutely no different texture for being wool than it would be if it were arm hair, because everyone knows that arm hair and wool feel exactly the same. ...Okay, you're Esau, since the wool feels just like arm hair, and your voice, despite youthfulness, must be Esau's. Achoo." "Bless you." "Ha! I fooled you!" "Ha ha. You were always so funny, Dad. Say, uh, could you bless me now?" "Sure. God bless this child. Amen." "Thanks Pop."
Esau and Isach: "Say, Dad, bless me." "(Wary, now) What is it now Esau?" "Uh...here's your food, will you bless me?" "You already fed me and I already blessed you. Wait. Let me feel your arms. Arm hair! I knew the other arm felt different!" "Other arm?" "Your brother's! He impersonated you and I blessed him." "Dad...let's think this through logically. You can't bless a fraud. All you have to do is curse Jacob for lying, and curse Rachel, too, that stupid sow, and just bless me as your real, loving, un-deceiving son." "Oh...but that's not in the Bible, because a lot of the Bible's illogical, so you'll just have to kill your brother in a vengeful fury." "(Grumble)"
So we all know what it's like to have our stuff jacked from us. The Jews aren't liking this popular quiet belief amongst Christians that say because God hates the Jews so much now He's just going to bless Christians.
These three reasons, and loads more (if any of y'all wanan provide some, go right on ahead), are why I believe we'll never get along until we're all controlled by Nero Resurrected.
Why COULD we get along?