Misconceptions about Atheism

Dark Virtue

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One of the things I have noticed in my discussions here is that there is a lack of understanding about what atheism truly is. Hopefully I can dismiss a few incorrect notions and educate you to some degree.

The following has been compiled from different sources.

Atheism is not a religion or a belief system.
Atheism is the DISbelief, or denial of, the existence of a god. It is the antithesis to a belief in god(s). To quote Dan Barker, "Basic atheism is not a belief. It is the lack of belief. There is a difference between believing there is no god and not believing there is a god--both are atheistic, though popular usage has ignored the latter."

Atheism is a broad category, not a specific one.
The term "atheist" encompasses many different sub-categories including agnostics and freethinkers.

Atheism does not imply that life is meaningless.
Life does not have to be everlasting to have meaning. Quite the opposite. Since we know that life is fleeting, we strive to experience all the meaning we can within that short period.

Myth: Atheists have no motivation to be, or do, good.
Morality isn't limited to religion. Morality can, and does, exist outside the boundaries of religiosity. As the Italians say, "La virtù è premio a se stessa". Virtue is its own reward.

Atheists are not intolerant or prejudiced against relgious people.
There are obnoxious people on both sides of the fence. Just because one holds an opposing view does not make on intolerant. Atheists, as a whole, are not intolerant, nor are they prejudiced.

Atheism does not undermine patriotism.
Contrary to popular opinion, America was NOT founded on Christian values. A simple Google search is sufficient to prove this statement. Many of our founding fathers were not Christian. Nonbelievers participate fully in all the positive aspects of American life, including military service and jury duty.

Atheists have no problem admitting when they are wrong.
This is more of a personal attack on specific atheists than atheism as a whole. Since atheists depend on the scientific theory, being wrong is part of the game, it is how you learn and grow. Atheists are in constant search of the truth, sometimes that means admitting that the truth you held was incorrect. Unfortunately many theists that claim this of atheists are themselves guilty of the charge.

Atheists admit that they sin.
Atheists don't believe they are perfect. Man is fallible, we sin. Atheists acknowledge their mistakes. Be aware that "sin" isn't always defined by a religious system.

Atheists aren't an inherantly angry bunch.
Admittedly, there are many "angry" atheists out there. I think it isn't so much anger as it is frustration from dealing with illogical theists. As I have stated before, atheists are willing to budge on their beliefs when proven wrong, theists, for the most part, are not.

Atheists are not followers of Satan.
This one should be self-evident, but many Christians believe that atheists are pawns of Satan. That is simply rubbish. How can atheists follow Satan if they don't believe in him along with God?

Atheists do not CHOOSE to disbelieve in God.
Again, it all goes back to evidence. Were there evidence/proof to show that God exists, then atheists would believe in God. Atheists don't believe in God because there is no evidence, it is not an arbitrary decision.

Atheists don't hate God and detest some divine authority.
This is an attack on atheistic motivation. Again, this goes back to the lack of evidence in gods.

Atheists don't actually believe God exists and are in some sort of denial.
You'd be suprised at how common a claim this is. Atheism relies on facts and evidence, not on the motivation of the atheist. Once again, this goes back to a lack of evidence.

Some atheists HAVE actually tried to find God.
Yes, some of us actually have tried to find God. With all of our hearts, minds and souls. Many atheists were once religious. They meant it as much as any other Christian. It is sad when Christians claim some sort of superiority over atheists and blame them for not trying hard enough, or at least, not as hard as the Christian making the charge. In the end, satisfactory answers never materialized and faith was put aside for logic and reason.

Atheists should not be pigeonholed, they do not all believe in the same thing.
That's like saying all Christians believe in the same thing. It's fundamentally incorrect.

Atheists are not chaotic.
Just because there is no god or religion to issue morality doesn't mean that atheists are without virtue and honor. Atheists ARE moral. Just as much as any theist.

I hope this list will help shed some light on your neighbors on the other side of the fence. If you have any questions or would like clarification on any points, just let me know. I may not represent every atheist, but I may be able to shed some light on your questions.

Thank you.
 
I agree with all of those except for the first one. I 'believe' that there is not a god, as I can never 'know' for sure. Belief in a disbelief. I suppose I wouldn't call it a belief 'system' though.
 
Did you just contradict yourself?
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I don't believe there is a God because I can not find proof of one.

You can believe in something without it being a belief "system".
 
..Hrmm. Well, my point is that because we can never know whether there is a god or not, it has to be a belief. Buuut your statement only mentioned the term 'belief system,' so, yeah.
 
It's a fine line Billy Boy
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Just remember, atheists don't have FAITH there isn't a God. There is a lack of evidence to support belief in a god.
 
..Yes..they don't have faith. Although they can never be sure.. But they base their beliefs entirely on evidence and the lack thereof.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]Atheism does not imply that life is meaningless.
Life does not have to be everlasting to have meaning. Quite the opposite. Since we know that life is fleeting, we strive to experience all the meaning we can within that short period.

Many people don't see that Atheism is no more than an excuse to do what you want to do. With the mentality that life is fleeting and you need to experience all you can, that opens (metaphorically) doors for pre-marital sex, and just about anyother sin/ temptation known to mankind. One of the first scientist to embrace evolution (I know there is a difference between Atheism and Evloution, but he was an Atheist) when asked why, he said that is was to rationalize his sexual morality. (I will get the exact quote as soon as I can)
 
People that see Atheism as an excuse to do whatever they want are uneducated fools. Why do I say fool? Because it is extremely easy to educate one's self to see that that is simply not so.

How many Christians engage in premarital sex? How many Christians are murderers? How many Christians are gay? How many Christians cheat on their spouses? How many Christians lie? How many Christians steal?

Come on now, the playing field is even. Just as many theists sin as nontheists.

Atheists HAVE morals. It's just that simple. You may not want to believe it, but it's TRUE.
 
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Quote[/b] (The Penguin Slayer @ Oct. 15 2004,6:43)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]Atheism does not imply that life is meaningless.
Life does not have to be everlasting to have meaning.  Quite the opposite.  Since we know that life is fleeting, we strive to experience all the meaning we can within that short period.

Many people don't see that Atheism is no more than an excuse to do what you want to do.  With the mentality that life is fleeting and you need to experience all you can, that opens (metaphorically) doors for pre-marital sex, and just about anyother sin/ temptation known to mankind.  One of the first scientist to embrace evolution (I know there is a difference between Atheism and Evloution, but he was an Atheist) when asked why, he said that is was to rationalize his sexual morality.  (I will get the exact quote as soon as I can)
You are assuming that morallity comes only from god, which just is not so.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Frag Boy! @ Oct. 16 2004,10:10)]God gave us a consciounce. but however, mr. bill, you are an agnostic!
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Actually I'm atheistic. Buuut if you want to argue the point of whether morallity comes only from god, I'd be happy to oblige.
 
Nope. I'll break it down for you.

Theism is the belief that there is a god.

Atheism is the belief that there isn't a god.

Agnosticism is the belief that there may be a god, but there may not be a god. So basically it's in the middle.
 
More specifically, "gnosis" means knowledge, "a" means negative. Therefore agnostic refers to a lack of knowledge. Thomas H. Huxley, a well known English religious skeptic, invented the term Agnostic in the 1840's. He didn't believe he had enough information to make a logical conclusion about the existence of God. Huxley said, "When I reached intellectual maturity, and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist, or a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; a Christian or a freethinker, I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer; until at last I came to the conclusion that I had neither art nor part with any of these denominations, except the last...So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic". It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the "gnostic" of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant..."

And a Freethinker is a person who forms opinions about religions on the basis of reason, independently of tradition, authority, or established belief. Freethinkers include atheists, agnostics and rationalists.
 
I think some of you are still laboring under the impression that atheists have an active disbelief in God.

This is NOT correct.

Atheists do not believe in ANY gods because of a lack of evidence to the contrary. If we had evidence, then we wouldn't be atheists...we'd be just plain stubborn.
 
You said in another topic that there are two types of athiests. One who doesn't bellieve in a God, and one who believes in no God.
 
You are referring to the quote by Dan Barker,

"Basic atheism is not a belief. It is the lack of belief. There is a difference between believing there is no god and not believing there is a god--both are atheistic, though popular usage has ignored the latter"
 
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