Hating America

lol oriely my dad loves this guy good article
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ] Pardon me as I object to the anti-American foreign press and bums like Chirac in France and Chretien in Canada.

At least he placed the blame squarely where it belongs. I do believe alot of Canadians have been deceived by our left wing, liberal, US bashing press. I think that study showed about 39% of Canadian teenagers can't think for themselves and that number jumps up to 63% with Francophone teenagers. My numbers are 1% less then the articles because there are some teenagers who definatly do dislike the US and have valid reasons and have though them out. I just haven't met one.

To be fair, lets put some of those budget numbers into perspective, Canada's entire budget is 180 Billion. If Canada was to equal the USA in sending aid to Africa, it would amount to 10% of Canada's budget. Likely, the amounts given are relatively proportional.

And, Canada can't free people from other countries dictatorships until they free themselves from their own. Unfortunatly, the balance of electoral power resides in Ontario and that is where you will find 95% of the deceived teenagers. Eastern Canada (Ontario and Eastward) vote out of fear, not out of what is best for Canada.

Liberal politicians in Canada get away with bashing the USA, calling them morons. But if a conservative says he is against gay marriage, oh my, the tyranny. Really, when it boils down to it, I love my city Calgary first and foremost. I love my province Alberta second and dearly. I like my region of Canada, Western, immensely. Its Ontario and points East that I have a problem with.
 
I voted liberal, they was better than concervative and alot better than NDP. I don't like the concervatives and their stand against gay marriages, also the liberals are going to be lde criminilzing the good stuff.
tounge.gif


I don't like Bill O'reilly, I remember watching him blame violence on Hip Hop and Rock music. Which makes no sense to me since I've grown up listining to Gangster Rap and Rock music. But he's very pro war.

[b said:
Quote[/b] ]•The foreign and defense policies of Ronald Reagan (search) resulted in the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the freeing of approximately 122 million people in Eastern Europe.

Communism would have fallen without americans getting into it. And one of those guys the americans helped was Bin Laden, he was useful in pushing the soviets out of Afghan so I guess the rest doesn't matter.

[b said:
Quote[/b] ]The USA and Britain removed the Iraqi dictator Hussein, who was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East. And we have also removed the terrorist Taliban government in Afghanistan

Well they went into Iraq on false pretenses, first it was for weapons of mass destruction, and because Sadam was funding terrorism. Now that the can't find weapons and they found out Sadam wasn't funding terrorism, they changed their story to we went in to Iraq to help the poor people of Iraq. Well the people were being killed for a long time what took them so long to go in.
And america wouldn't of gone into Afghan if it wasn't for 9/11, they wern't thinking of the poor people there, they were thinking of their own safety.

[b said:
Quote[/b] ]The state of Israel would cease to exist if not for American protection, and about 5.5 million Jews would be in grave danger.

Well if the British didn't help create Israel, the Jews, the christins and the muslums would be living peacefully in Palistine. One of the reason the Palestineans were upset with the Jews after WW2 was because to many of them were immigrating over to Palistine, and it was over the immigration limit.

And canadians don't hate americans, we can't we love their tv shows to much. We just don't like their politics right now. But I guess we should watch what we say George Bush might add our names to the Axis of Evil.

Kerry For President
 
actually, the main reason Bush gave for going into Iraq, was that the US was upholding the UN Security Council resolution.


as for palestine, for 20ish years after the creation of Isreal, they lived in peace amonst themselves. it wasn't until the 70's that the Palestinanians started blowing up Jews and themselvs.

As for Hip Hop and violence, OReilley wasn't blaming it on Hip Hop, if memory serves, he was saying that Gangsta Rap was a glorification of the violence that is so prevalevent in that socio-economic society. He was saying that the arts that that society produces, glorifies, and re-inforces that behaviour.

GP - the liberal left is doing the same thing INSIDE America.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ] voted liberal, they was better than concervative

I suppose for some, it is better to vote in a known corrupt government then accept change. Liberal stance on Gay marriage = Let the supreme court create new laws instead of the elected officials (dictatorship). Conservative stance on Gay marriage = free vote in the parliament where elected members vote to create laws (democracy).

[b said:
Quote[/b] ]Well if the British didn't help create Israel,

Actually, God created Isreal.
 
Go GP and it is true Gangsta is more then any othere kinda music is violence you listen to a couple songs of eminem and heavy metal it is all drugs drugs and drugs
 
But I like the glorification of violence in hip hop. I grew up listening to gangster rap, from NWA to 2Pac. I was left alone for most of my childhood because y sis was in the hospital alot. And I think I've been in 3 fights all my life. Rap music never made me want to act out violence, it was actually the opposite, it showed me that violence would get me nowhere. Read these lyrics and tell me if its promoting violence or showing the negatives in it. me against the world
But, back to Bill, when ludracris was about to come out with a Pepsi commercial, be called for a boycott of Pepsi products because Ludracris uses swearing in his music. And Pepsi droped Ludracris.
When Snoop was suposed to be on the Muppet show, he went on his usual rant and they droped snoop. Complaining that snoop has been charged with murder in the past, and has been in porn videos(Girls Gone Wild).
He seems like a racist. He didn't mind the Ozzy swears on his show, he left him alone to get a pepsi endorcement. He didn't mind Madona getting a Gap endorcement deal even though she had a book out called sex.


Bill O'Rilley at his best.
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]It is true that if you are poor, and can't afford a good lawyer, your odds of going to prison skyrocket. But you know what? Tough. Don't do the crime! Poverty is a terrible thing. But millions fight their way out of it, legally! If you are a poor criminal, you know what awaits you. So too bad. Society does not have a responsibility to provide top notch legal representation at taxpayer expense.

I'm all for gay marriages, I think a few days ago they showed the 1 year aniversary of a gay couple, and they looked great together. Has anyone watched Queer Eye for the straight guy, those guys are pretty cool. I've found some great hair products on that show, expencive products but they were worth it.

Are u sure the British didn't help alittle.

Sorry I went on a rant there.
 
well sorry for this but that is my week spot here gays i am tottaly aginst them there are even some in asia where they think they were soppesed to be women but that besides the point i am totally aginst gays and yes i have seen that gay show
 
what's the problem with your quote? I personally see nothing wrong or racist in it. It seems like a fairly straight-forward and intelligent statement.


As for gay marriages, that's an oxymoron. You can't have a gay marriage, for marriage by it's very definition is the union between a man and a woman. I will never support gay marriages, and if you notice the ONLY way they're getting enacted is through Activist Judges bypassing the Constitional requirements to getting laws passed.

They know they have to go through the judges to get this done, for if left up to the populace, there's no way it would pass.
 
well the church here in New West has a gay priest, and they do preform marriages for gays. Well don't all prodistan churches preform them.
I think god told them that it was ok.

The quote shows that Bill thinks that they are guilty before being proven innocent. But I guess u expect nothing less from Bill, he's just interested in ratings.
 
Wait a minute....God told churches to perform same-sex 'marriages'?! I don't think so! In fact, I know He didn't! It goes against His very nature and the Bible. And no, all protestant churches don't perform same-sex 'marriages'.

A lot of these so-called 'pastors' in some major denominations are incredibly liberal, and this same-sex 'marriage' thing is just their chance to impose their radical belief system, one that goes against almost every denominations' belief as a whole, through the performing of these gay 'weddings'.

Fact is, homosexual 'marriage' will just not work. Just one point you never could get around would be the biological problem! I can't go through EVERY single argument, but for those of you who are interested, please visit this site for some great info:

Protect Marriage.Org
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]The quote shows that Bill thinks that they are guilty before being proven innocent. But I guess u expect nothing less from Bill, he's just interested in ratings.

how exactly do you get that Bill believes guilty until proven innocent from this?
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]It is true that if you are poor, and can't afford a good lawyer, your odds of going to prison skyrocket. But you know what? Tough. Don't do the crime! Poverty is a terrible thing. But millions fight their way out of it, legally! If you are a poor criminal, you know what awaits you. So too bad. Society does not have a responsibility to provide top notch legal representation at taxpayer expense.

He's not saying guilty until proven innocent. He's saying that being poor is not an excuse for commiting crimes. He's saying that rather than whine about not getting the best legal minds to defend you when you commit a crime, do not commit the crime.
 
well how does he know they commited the crime. well nm.

I think god told those priests that gay marriages are ok, people just don't understand the bible. Or maybe he changed his mind, he's done that before.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (JoBlow @ July 12 2004,12:13)]I think god told those priests that gay marriages are ok, people just don't understand the bible.
Or maybe we're not reading the same Bible, cause mine says homosexuality is detestable in God's sight. In very plain words. It's hard to make an allegory or get any symbolism out of that for you "the Bible is not meant to be taken literally" folks.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

" With such clear statements against homosexuality, it is difficult to see how different groups can say the Bible supports homosexuality. It doesn't. But when a group wants acceptance and the Bible is the Christians' handbook on morality, the homosexual agenda must try to make the Bible agree with its agenda. But it doesn't work.
Unlike other sins, this sexual sin has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins. As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance. Without repentance, there will be no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.

Should homosexuals be allowed to marry one another?

In this politically correct climate that relinquishes morality to the relativistic whims of society, stating that homosexuals should not marry is becoming unpopular. Should a woman be allowed to marry another woman? Should a man be allowed to marry another man? Should they be given legal protection and special rights to practice their homosexuality? No. No. No.
The Bible, of course, condemns homosexuality. It takes no leap of logic to discern that homosexual marriage is also condemned. But our society does not rely on the Bible for its moral truth. Instead, it relies more on a humanistic and relativistic moral base upon which it builds its ethics.
Homosexuality is not natural. The male and female bodies are obviously designed to couple. The natural design is apparent. It is not natural to couple male with male and female with female. In fact, if such couplings occurred in the animal world as a predominant practice, species would quickly become extinct. Nevertheless, some argue that homosexuality is natural since it occurs in the animal world. But this is problematic. In nature we see animals eating their prey alive. We see savagery, cruelty, and extreme brutality. Yet, we do not condone such behavior in our own society. Proponents of the natural order as a basis for homosexuality should not pick-and-choose the situations that best fit their agendas. They should be consistent and not compare us to animals. We are not animals. We are made in God's image.
Political protection of a sexual practice is ludicrous. I do not believe it is proper to pass laws stating that homosexuals have 'rights.' What about pedophilia or bestiality? These are sexual practices. Should they also be protected by law? If homosexuality is protected by law, why not those as well?
Of course, these brief paragraphs can in no way exhaust the issue of homosexuality's moral equity. But, the family is the basis of our culture. It is the most basic unit. Destroy it and you destroy society.

What should be the Christian's Response to the Homosexual?

Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean that we cannot love him (or her) or pray for him (her). Homosexuality is a sin and like any other sin, it needs to be dealt with in the only way possible. It needs to be laid at the cross, repented of, and never done again.
As a Christian, you should pray for the salvation of the homosexual the same you would any other person in sin. You should treat them with the same dignity as a person made in the image of God, that you would any other person. However, this does not mean that you are to approve of their sin. Don't compromise your witness for a politically correct opinion that is shaped by guilt and fear."

- carm.org
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]Leviticus 18:22; 20:13-14
These verses are found in the "Holiness Code" which emphasized to the Israelites that they were to be set apart to God. The context is prohibition of practices found in the nearby fertility cult of Molech. "Abomination" is a translation of the Hebrew word which specifically means idolatrous practices (not necessarily sexual). The condemnation here is a reference to the fertility worship which the Israelites were to shun.

The seriousness of this idolatry in Hebrew eyes was compounded by the belief that "to lie with a man as with a woman" violated the dignity of the male sex. Women were property but men were the direct image of God. To treat a man the way a woman was treated was to reduce him to property and, thereby, to violate the image of God. The issue was idolatrous activity which failed to acknowledge God's creation

leviticus

Its all about translation. I might be wrong, it usually takes me a few trys to figure out what shakespear is saying. But I guess I agree more with the liberal christian.

I don't think u should pray for him because he's sinning. I've met lesbians who had a kid, and they make a cute family. But u have the right to your opinion. Your like my parents, their not gay fans, and u make the same arguments as them, and we still don't agree on the subject.
 
Does it matter if an idolatrous practice is sexual or not? Idolatry is forbidden. And if two men lay with each other, which is the property and which the owner? Or if they both reduce themselves to property, who then owns them?

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth.” (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

This seems to run rampant these days.
 
Back
Top