Creating the ultimate 48-49 PvP Hunter

Tek7 (Legacy)

Tek7 (Legacy)

CGA & ToJ President
As stated in previous threads, my current plan with Ulfbrikt is to level him to 48, equip the gear I've purchased for him, and camp out in the battlegrounds for an undetermined amount of time.

I spoke with Anadi, Hunter extraordinaire and owner of DonFlamingo, and he provided a great deal of insight into playing a Hunter in PvP. He informed me, much to my dismay, that Stamina is a very important stat in a Hunter's build. With nearly a full set of Tough Scorpid Armor and Bloodlust Bracelets in the bank, I was hoping that Spirit would be a Hunter's secondary stat.

So, at level 45, I'm reconsidering my original intended build for Ulfbrikt at 48. I've done some preliminary research on Thottbot and Allakhazam and found a few items that I may purchase from the AH.

Before I go off and start buying greens and blues off the AH, I want to enlist the help of the guild in creating the ultimate 48-49 PvP Hunter. Here are a few of the questions I'm looking to answer:
  • When I respec, how should I spent my Talent points?
  • What stats are most important for a Hunter, and why?
  • What ratios should I use to determine the desired stats for my Hunter? (For example: 1/2 Agility, 1/4 Stamina, 1/4 Spirit.)
  • What are the best pieces of armor for a 48-49 PvP Hunter?
  • What are the best weapons for a 48-49 PvP Hunter?
  • How should I configure my keyboard, hotkeys, and action bars for PvP?
  • Should I consider Leather armor even though I can wear Mail now?
  • What enchants should I buy?
Any and all advice is appreciated. While I know that teams are very important in PvP, the stronger Ulfbrikt is in the battlegrounds, the better chance I have of enjoying PvP.

NOTE: I'd prefer to buy items off the AH rather than run instances for them, so BoE > BoP; however, if a BoP item is significantly better than any BoE item, I'll consider running the instance where it drops.
 
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First question: Grimlok's Charge or Ribsplitter of the Monkey + Widow Blade of the Monkey? The question is more theoretical, as the chances of ever finding both "of the Monkey" blades are slim to nil.

Grimlok's has better stats than both blades combined, but far fewer DPS. Thoughts?

EDIT: Nevermind, Grimlok's turns out to be the better (and less expensive) choice.

Click here to view my level 49 profile as originally intended, then select "Wish List" from the "View alternate profiles" dropdown box to view what I've dreamed up so far. If the Hunters in the guild could view the "Wish List" profile and provide feedback, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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Please pardon the third post in a row, but I'd like to list the items I'm watching for to make Ulfbrikt pwn in PvP. Here's the full list:

EDIT: I'm going to split the "wish list" into separate posts, based on slots.

Chest
Lord's Breastplate of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=15418
288 Armor
+14-15 Agility
+14-15 Stamina

Formidable Chestpiece of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=12999
283 Armor
+14-15 Agility
+14-15 Stamina​

EDIT: Removed Atal'ai Breastplate of the Monkey as the chances of it dropping are astronomical.

EDIT: Removed Dragonscale Breastplate as I was informed that resistances are not as important I had thought in PvP.
 
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Head
Crusader's Helm of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=13074
234 Armor
+14-15 Agility
+14-15 Stamina

Formidable Circlet of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=6233
230 Armor
+14-15 Agility
+14-15 Stamina

Skullsplitter Helm
http://thottbot.com/?i=6316
196 Armor
+11 Agility
+12 Stamina

Chief Brigadier Coif
http://thottbot.com/?i=3593
184 Armor
+10 Agility
+11 Stamina

Mithril Coif
http://thottbot.com/?i=4594
206 Armor
+12 Stamina
+13 Spirit

Turtle Scale Helm
http://thottbot.com/?i=5387
206 Armor
+10 Stamina
+10 Intellect
+10 Spirit
​
 
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Shoulders
Crusader's Pauldrons of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=17835
216 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Ironhide Pauldrons of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=17372
216 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Merciless Epaulets of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=17075
220 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Lord's Pauldrons of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=12075
212 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Mithril Scale Shoulders
http://thottbot.com/?i=20141
194 Armor
+10 Stamina
+10 Spirit

Tough Scorpid Shoulders
http://thottbot.com/?i=6027
197 Armor
+10 Agility
+10 Spirit
​
 
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Waist
Crusader's Belt of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=14920
159 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Merciless Belt of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=7779
165 Armor
+11-12 Agility
+11-12 Stamina

Seared Mail Girdle [Quest: Fiery Menace!]
http://thottbot.com/?i=40289
151 Armor
+12 Agility
+7 Stamina

Protector Waistband
http://thottbot.com/?i=6220
154 Armor
+10 Agility
+10 Stamina
+4 Spirit

Blackforge Girdle
http://thottbot.com/?i=4455
138 Armor
+9 Agility
+9 Stamina

Radiant Belt
http://thottbot.com/?i=22042
159 Armor
+12 Frost Resistance
+12 Shadow Resistance

Stronghorn Girdle
http://thottbot.com/?i=3846
154 Armor
+11 Stamina
+10 Intellect​
 
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Wrist
Poobah's Nose Ring [Quest: Message in a Bottle]
http://thottbot.com/?i=2922
119 Armor
+12 Stamina

Crusader's Armguards of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=16122
122 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Merciless Bracers of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=18422
122 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Ornate Bracers of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=3977
128 Armor
+8-9 Agility
+8-9 Stamina

Ironhide Bracers of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=12998
119 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Lord's Armguards of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=10521
117 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Formidable Bracers of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=16054
115 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Gryphon Mail Bracelets of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=11573
113 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

Warmonger's Bracers of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=12032
111 Armor
+7-8 Agility
+7-8 Stamina

War Rider Bracers
http://thottbot.com/?i=2269
101 Armor
+3 Agility
+8 Stamina

Auric Bracers
http://thottbot.com/?i=3477
101 Armor
+8 Stamina
+3 Intellect​
 
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Legs
Lord's Legguards of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=10537
248 Armor
+14-15 Agility
+14-15 Stamina

Crusader's Leggings of the Monkey
http://thottbot.com/?i=15241
256 Armor
+15 Agility
+14 Stamina

Khan's Legguards
http://thottbot.com/?i=8247
226 Armor
+11 Agility
+14 Stamina
+5 Spirit

Turtle Scale Leggings
http://thottbot.com/?i=5453
226 Armor
+11 Stamina
+10 Intellect
+11 Spirit

Infernal Trickster Leggings [Dungeon: Maraudon]
http://thottbot.com/?i=19474
263 Armor
+20 Agility
+9 Intellect
Equip: Increased Bows +4.

Searingscale Leggings [Dungeon: Blackrock Depths]
http://thottbot.com/?i=13083
277 Armor
+13 Agility
+13 Stamina
+13 Intellect
+10 Spirit
+10 Fire Resistance

Iridescent Scale Leggings
http://thottbot.com/?i=3529
217 Armor
+13 Fire Resistance
+13 Frost Resistance​
 
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both are good though since you are dwarf i would say gutbuster if you plan on maxing out your lvl 49 killing power (you would seemingly be a 50 with the gun)

also all your gear should be of the monkey. period. if you are going for PVP high stam/agil is key. your enchants

boots minor speed
chest +100hp
bracer +9stam
gloves +7 agil
cloak +5 all resist
 
Divine said:
I vote Guttbuster. Prolly teh best choice since it has taht agility.
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Glad to hear it, since I spent 35g to buy it. :D

LionOfJudah said:
both are good though since you are dwarf i would say gutbuster if you plan on maxing out your lvl 49 killing power (you would seemingly be a 50 with the gun)
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Roger that.

LionOfJudah said:
also all your gear should be of the monkey. period.
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What about Dragonscale Breastplate? Should I gather the mats for it, or purchase an "of the Monkey" breastplate instead?

LionOfJudah said:
your enchants

boots minor speed
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Got the mats for two of those enchants, and a pair of Swift Boots ready to be enchanted.

LionOfJudah said:
chest +100hp
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Going to buy the mats for this soon.
LionOfJudah said:
bracer +9stam
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I researched the mats fro the +7 Stamina and the +9 Stamina, and I think the +7 is a better bargain. The price difference is too significant for another 2 Stamina, IMHO. Then again, I might have miscalculated the prices.
LionOfJudah said:
gloves +7 agil
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Isn't this one rather expensive as well? I'll have to go back through Thottbot and check.
LionOfJudah said:
cloak +5 all resist
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Hm, I'd forgotten about that one. I already have my Serpentskin Cloak enchanted with the +3 Agility enchant, but it seems the +5 All Resists enchant would serve better in PvP.

Thank you both for your feedback. :) I admit I'm still something of a n00b to PvP as I've never rolled or leveled a twink and I didn't enjoy PvP until level 38. I'll keep an eye on the AH for "of the Monkey" equipment and try to run Uldaman this week for Grimlok's Charge.

LionOfJudah said:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1082868 for a reference that is what my 39 hunter is like.
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Ah, thank you. This should be most helpful as a reference. :)
 
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Next big questions:
Also, what are the best neckpiece and trinkets available to a 48 Hunter that's Neutral with Silverwing Sentinels? I plan to purchase Rune of Duty as soon as I reach Friendly reputation with Silverwing Sentinels, and Sentinel's Medallion when I reach Honored.

One other question: What are the disadvantages and advantages of using Grimlok's Charge as opposed to dual-wielding Ribsplitter of the Monkey and Widow Blade of the Monkey (besides the cost of purchasing the latter two blades)?
 
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Trueshot is pretty much a raid build, and when I pvp solo it doesn't really help anyone but myself (and my pet).

Here's a survival oriented build for a 49, survivalist is a good for pvp 10% more hp. The other things such as counterattack/deterence is to help you get into range against a melee class. The only bad thing about this is no scattershot so you have to make sure you pet is not attacking (or not being attacked) anything when you FD + trap
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info...000000000000000500510000000000340050510303140

Here's a trueshot oriented build for a 49. Bad thing about this is no 10% more hp or not so many tricks to get back into range against a melee class.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info...000000000000000520510305130510320040000000000

You asked me earlier why I was using a weird pet.. The main reason is most of the pet's growls don't really work when a hunter gets well geared. Normal mobs take 3-4 shots to kill, it takes a pet 2-3 growls to hold good agro so why bother wasting 15 seconds for pet to get ago when the mob takes only 6 seconds to kill.

Edit: In raiding instances hunters can choose to have pets out or not, some places are used to pull with pets. Pets aren't totally useless once a hunter is geared, it just becomes a habit to not rely on pets that much.
 
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lanki said:
Trueshot is pretty much a raid build, and when I pvp solo it doesn't really help anyone but myself (and my pet).
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Aye, it seemed as though it would be of greater use in a raid than a battleground.
lanki said:
Here's a survival oriented build for a 49, survivalist is a good for pvp 10% more hp. The other things such as counterattack/deterence is to help you get into range against a melee class.
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Excellent. :)
lanki said:
The only bad thing about this is no scattershot so you have to make sure you pet is not attacking (or not being attacked) anything when you FD + trap
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Either I wasn't using it correctly, or Scatter Shot didn't work for me as well as I had originally hoped. I had hoped it would kick aggro from me to a tank, perhaps even my pet, and afford me time to run out of range. It rarely did anything of the kind. So I'm not too sad to lose Scatter Shot.
lanki said:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info...000000000000000500510000000000340050510303140
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Which point would you exclude if I was to take the build down to level 48? Here's the modified build I came up with (just guessing).
lanki said:
You asked me earlier why I was using a weird pet.. The main reason is most of the pet's growls don't really work when a hunter gets well geared. Normal mobs take 3-4 shots to kill, it takes a pet 2-3 growls to hold good agro so why bother wasting 15 seconds for pet to get ago when the mob takes only 6 seconds to kill.
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Roger that. I've noticed that Growl is nearly useless when I crit with an Aimed Shot.
 
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