The Closing of the Religious Discussions Forums

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No, not necessarily. Just because he's an Atheist doesn't mean that he's going to go nuts.

Seriously, if he were a Christian, he would've been high on my list of people to contact for the PureFun Staff Search. ^^
 
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I think DV would make a good forum moderator but not a Christian Religious Discussion Moderator. Just like I wouldn't make for a good Muslim forum RD Moderator, or a Jewish person a good Budhist RD forum. Its not a slight against anybody, just a reminder that there have to be limits. You wouldn't get into an 747 that was to be piloted by somebody who only ever played the first version of microsoft flight simulator or any version for that matter.
 
Peon makes a good point.

However, while this IS a Christian board, the RD forum never confined itself to Christianity, and never did it confine itself to a Christian only point of view. Could I be a moderator of RD here? Sure. Could I be a moderator at somewhere like RaptureReady? No. (although for the record, I wouldn't want to be :) )

Please note that while I racked up 4,000 + posts primarily in RD, I never encroached into the Daily Devotional thread or the Bible Study thread.

Why? Because there was a line that was drawn that made it clear that those areas were a "debate" free zone. Look at what we call it: RD. What exactly does that stand for? RELIGIOUS Discussion. Not Christian Only Discussion.

Also, let me make it clear that I'm not throwing my hat into the ring here. I miss having the forum and would be more than willing to step up and help, but I would be going against the whole point I've been making in this thread, which is to give the forum members what they want. While I appreciate the sentiments that were said about me, I think too many people would think ill of my position, like the fox being handed the keys to the hen house so to speak. As I said, I would be more than willing to help in any way, shape or form to get RD back. Heck, I've been here over two years.
 
Two points...


Religious Discussion(Moderated)
For civilized discussion and civilized debate: In the end, if you cant agree, then agree to disagree. This forum is moderated.
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1. Nowhere in the name or the description of the forum does it say that it is limited to Christian Religious Discussion. Obviously, being a Christian is not a prerequisite for posting there.

2. You don't have to be a Christian to be a good moderator. I personally would be a horrible mod, despite the fact that I am a Christian. The only things that are ultimately important (IMO, anyway) is the moderator needs to be someone that has the time, patience, and desire to do it, while being fair in the use of his/her authority. Don't edit posts unnecessarily, don't delete posts because you don't agree with the content, etc. While I'm relatively new to the RD boards, I think that Dark Virtue was very fair, concise and discussed with an open mind. We just don't agree on one specific point.

You wouldn't get into an 747 that was to be piloted by somebody who only ever played the first version of microsoft flight simulator or any version for that matter.
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Ah, but you're forgetting that DV once did proclaim to be a Christian. He went to church, read the Bible.... but never felt the spiritual connection. So he has changed his beliefs to fit his experience, or lack thereof. That doesn't make him uneducated or incompetent, it just makes him an unbeliever. To fit your analogy, he used to fly 747s, but chose to retire. He still knows all about the 747.

I agree Phantom and SirThom. DV would be a good moderator.

*edit* bah, DV finished his reply before I did. Big sadface. Something that just came to mind... Jesus went to the houses of the poor, the sick, the tax collectors... He wasn't afraid to be seen with them. Why is it that we think that a forum moderated by DV would be such a horrible place?

Besides, if we felt he was unfairly moderating the forums, then we could bring it up with HCS, Tek, or someone else high-up in the CGA. If the mod of a specific forum is abusing the powers, then the admins can pull the cord.
 
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I feel like I am already dismissed and that no one is really reading why I moved to shut down RD. Let me again reiterate, it is not because I needed a break. If I truely needed a break from RD, I would have PM the other moderators stating as such with a time I would be back. Quite frankly, moderating a moderated forum is much easier than an unmoderated forum.

Now, with that being said, I really must add my thoughts on this. Religious Discussion can be a very productive thing. Ahh, DV, if you were only a Christian now... the conversations that would ensue would be incredible. But, that is not the case. More times than not, a conversation would degenerate to a point of someone saying prove it, the other providing evidence, the original one disagreeing with said evidence and so on and so forth. Let me ask, how does that really move a conversation forward?

RD would regularly have the same people posting in it time and again on the various topics posted. It is only when RD is closed that all of a sudden everyone misses it. So what truely are your motives for wanting RD open? Are you concerned about the closing of RD or are you just resisting change? I have seen posts in this thread from some who may have posted once or twice in RD. How can one comment on it without being an active part of the RD forum?

My questions are not sarcastic or demeaning, just questions that cross my mind after reading three pages of posts regarding the closing of RD. Over the past two years, the only time anyone has tried to change their posting behaviour is after a drastic action from a Mod. Regrettably, the behaviours come back, showing that it was only a surface change in posting behaviours, not one on a heart level.

At this time, I will continue to support my decision to close RD for a season. At a point in the future, I think the staff of CGA, the leaders of the affliates, or some combination thereof should get together and create some definition and guidelines for such a forum. Until that time.....


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DV: Even if Tek allowed you to moderate the RD forums, every decision you made would be under suspect by some people. Myself included. You would be left paralized and unable to perform any duties what so ever.

DURRUCK: Actually there is a huge difference. As a Christian, I could never allow myself to have a non-christian have authority over my christian faith. That would include having DV moderate a RD forum.

We can say that the RD forum was never intended to be strictly Christian but we are all intelligent so why lie to ourselves. 99% of its content is related to Christianity, whether in defense of it or in question of it. Even the little bit there that I read that appeared to be Hindu or Budhist was met with Christian responses. I don't recall a Muslim or a Jew replying giving their PoV.

The RD forums were very much Christian, you can't change it by saying it wasn't meant to be. It may well have meant to be something else, it just never was.
 
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