RAPTURE, mountains, and a mustard seed.

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i who am nothing0, find it perplexing to see the Churches take Holy Scripture and come up with the Wrong conlusions and then make a doctrine out of errors.
For example:IF JESUS Christ of Nazareth rebuked the disciples for NOT having the FAITHE of a mustard seed, by which one can easily cast a mountain into the sea, then why would the Churches go to such lenghts to make a BIG DEAL OUT OF THE RAPTURE, when the being lifted up to the clouds is NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT THE MEETING THAT WILL OCCUR THERE WITH JESUS THERE IS!
Let me illuminate:
A mountain such as Mount Everest is 29,035 feet tall and has to sea level 385 CUBIC MILES OF SOLID ROCK!
So if i follow the example of Paul as Paul has told me to, and on the ROAD TO CHARITY attain ALL THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT, and one of them is All JESUS CLASS MIRACLES THE SAME AS PAUL DID TO ATTAIN, i could so easily by ALL FAITHE CAST A MOUNTAIN INTO THE SEA.
BUT WAIT, LONG before reaching ALL FAITHE, i would have easily passed the faithe the mustard seed has!!
So then if i was for what ever reason  to "spend" a mustard seed's worth of faithe, i too could ask THE LORD GOd JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH i can see with my fleshy eyes to LIFT UP THE ENTIRE LIVING BODY OF CHRIST ON EARTH, AT ANY ONE TIME.
For Dear Sheep of The LORd Jesus, The weight of Mount Everest GREATLY EXCEEDS THE PHYSICAL WEIGHT OF ALL CURRENT LIVING CHRISTIANS, SO that to get my mustard seed's WORTH OF VALUE, i would also have to ask JESUS to raise all THE SLEEPING SAINTS SO THAT TOGETHER THOSE WITH NEW FLESHLY BODIES MIGHT BE COMBINED WITH THE OTHERS ALIVE ALREADY AND i might then approach in mass weight:MOUNT EVEREST.
BUT WHY would i desire to do such a thing? and i could by the law of the mustard seed!
Let me see....all the body of Christ JESUS waiting for Jesus to escort him to rule on earth for 1000 years in the midst of his enemies, but HE(JESUS) does not show up until immediately after THE END OF TRIBULATION!
BUT HOWEVER TO SPEND my MUSTARD SEED ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, SO AS NO NONCOMBATANTS ARE PLACED IN HARMS WAY... DOES MAKE SENCE.
Be not deceived, Jesus said He would send 2 or 3 witnesses and John in Revelation only spoke of 2 of them. We are missing one witness, a THIRD WITNESS.
SO THEN if i may be so bold in my relationship with Jesus Christ say i am that third witness and will be there on the last day to battle the anti-Jesus Christ, i would also ask The LORd Jesus to get all in the clouds to meet Him, for the final battle will not last long.
You will watch from the clouds the eagles gatherd below.
Jesus never said it was He who had to ask THE FATHER IN THE ABSENCE OF A SINGLE PRAYER BY A man WITH THE FAITHE OF OR GREATER THAN A MUSTARD SEED FOR THE RAPTURE TO OCCUR, ONLY IT IS HE AND HIS FATHER THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE.
So i think i should be ashamed if on that day there is not at least on man on earth with the faithe of a mustard seed to ask for the Rapture!
i suggest we all pray very hard there is one!
i am nothing0.
Jesus is The Lord1Praise The Lord1The Lord Jesus. amen
 
although many end time prophesies are becoing clearer I still think we have a way to go. Where is the antichrist? earth catastrophies? people required to wear the mark of the beast?

we don't know when Jesus is coming back, we are to be ready and not decieved!
 
as i've stated before. If you have the faith the size of a mustard seed, enough to cast a mountain into the sea, then you would have faith enough not to test it.

It is not for us to deem to God when He should do something. Read the last 3 chapters of Job as to why.
 
...question new guy (welcome, by the way): was that a sermon or or a faith-encourager? I can't tell...or was it sarcasm?

Like Kidan said: if I had the faith to do it, then should I not also have the faith NOT to do it? What point would it serve? Would it even be used to edify God, or would it just be some Matrix move of mine? "Watch me defy physics, dudes. In the Name-uh Jesus-ah, I command-uh the rock-ah to be cast-uh-ed into the sea-uh!"

Why? There would be no point in it. Faith can heal, faith can blah blah blah. I dunno. Have faith in the Return of Our King. Is that what you're saying? Because if you are, I'm with you.

But Christ comes when Christ comes. Until that time (which no man knows), live as Christ commands us to live. And we won't have to worry about being caught in a compromising position when the End comes.
 
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Quote[/b] (Kidan @ Sep. 17 2003,9:47)]as i've stated before.  If you have the faith the size of a mustard seed, enough to cast a mountain into the sea, then you would have faith enough not to test it.

It is not for us to deem to God when He should do something.  Read the last 3 chapters of Job as to why.
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How very self serving...

I don't think having such a small amount of faith would mean having 'enough' faith not to 'test it'. Perhaps if your faith was the size of a continent, but a measely mustard seed, be reasonable man.
 
By the way, why does an omniscient being make a bet with Satan?
 
more like who is silly enough to make a bet with God??
God knew Job was string in his faith, Satan didn't believe him. God set the limits on what Satan could not do though. God is the boss
 
Satan is said to be very clever Biblically, yet he is too stupid to understand what omniscience means?

Why did God make a bet with Satan?

If Hell is total seperation from God, how is it exactly that Satan communed with the diety?
 
Hell/Lake of fire has not been created yet. Satan has been cast down to earth with 1/3 of heavenly hosts. Satan is jealous of us finding favpr in God and wants to make us fall and disobey God too.

Stan saw Job as a righteous man and wanted to chalenge God to try and make him fall, Satan failed. All that Satan took away God gave back in the end.
 
Satan was cast out of heaven, and roams the Earth (and I believe every other physical feature in the universe). Satan, contrary to several movies, jokes, some warped tracts and whatnot and pastors and whoall, is NOT in hell...because people don't understand hell when they say it.
Hell is Sheol. That is hell. It is merely a holding place for the dead. It is where Christ went when he died, and from it exited "the captives", and from there they went to heaven. Only those that went with Christ went to heaven. Everyone else that he did not take remained in Sheol (hell), which is a roasting cell for all of them, until the Day of Judgement, where they shall resurrect, and be united to their bodies, and from there cast into the Lake with Satan at long last.
Satan is free as a bird, and so are his demons. Read Daniel. I think it was Gabriel who had a tad o' trouble with the Prince of Persia (a demon lord of sorts, which gives you an idea that there are hierarchies in the demonic ranks, peaking with El Capitan Satan.)

And here's another question: by what medium do you measure faith? Do you fill up a jar of it? Is it like some oily, vaselinous substance, a goo? Or is it a liquid like water? Does it have mass? Can you freeze it in the freezer and have popsicles later on in the day? Faithsicles? What does it taste like?

By what standard do you measure faith? When do you know that you have a mustard seed, or a continent, of faith? Does your body expand with faith. Do you smile gently on everything? Do you wipe anything off the face of the Earth that bugs you?

First, I think, we must understand and define what faith is, before we can begin to say: "Well...all you need is X amount...and then you can do Y things..."
What is faith? Kenneth Copeland believes it to be a transferrable power, a tool, one that God HAD to have to create the world.
I believe faith is the power of belief, indeed, but not something you wield around like a .30-.30. Faith, to put it shortly in the words of Hebrews' author, "is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." I love that, because it so succintly defines faith right away: faith is belief in the unknown, and faith is living for the unknown and faith is coming to know the unknown. That is how I see that passage to mean. To know what is unknowable and to live in that unknowable.

What are y'all's definitions of faith?
 
Is it a "test" to take ADVANTAGE of what The LORd GOd Jesus Christ of Nazareth has availed one of?
It is NOT, for so too Paul took advantage of many JESUS CLASS MIRACLES.
A very few of them are recorded for you in the Acts.
So then if it WOULD act as a catalyst to change, and now i speak of inspiring THE BODY OF CHRIST to come to THE ASSEMBLY from all the Seven Churches, by KICKING these three in the rear:Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Protestant ; so that in this A MOUNTAIN WOULD RISE; then i am NOT testing, but by THE LORd GOd JESUS CHRIST ACTING WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE FATHER.
SO then i cast the ERROR of a "test" aside and can say with ease to literally cast a mountain into the sea with NO WAVES, would very much cause a statue to fall and a mountain(the physical body of Christ Jesus on earth)to rise(increase GREATLY IN FAITHE, EVEN THAT OF A MUSTARD SEED.)
***NOW then concerning the location of the physical bodies of satan and his demonic angels:2 Peter 2:4.
Ergo the physical bodies of them are CHAINED IN HELL.
Also hell, and the lake of fire are two different things.
Jesus went into hell to remove all with willing spirits.
The lake of fire is what hell will be cast into. The lake of fire is much worse. amen***
By the number of the spiritual responces, as we are not before each other in fleshly bodies, i would say i have been led to a place to be tested well.
i am nothing0.
Jesus is The LORd1Praise The Lord1The Lord Jesus. amen
 
If the LORD GOd takes a man into Thrid Heaven and washes him in the River that flows from the Throne of GOd, and then tells him by the mouthe of Jesus who is standing on that same river on the middle: "All things whatsoever you need to know have been given to you.", and then takes that man and places his soul and spirit back into his fleshly body, can another man who HAS NOT had that experience come and advise him of what GOd does and does NOT require of him?
He can not!
NOt even Job could tell the man who has been into Third Heaven what is and what is not.
For in no way had Job been there.
So once again i will INSIST this is the Absolute Truthe: if one, two or three witnesses comes by The FAther and The SOn into ALL FAITHE, there will not be anyone else on earth PRIVY to what the Father says by the SOn thru the HOly Spirit/Ghost to any of these three least they tell you by their own mouthes. IT IS A FACT.
i am the third witness that comes first.
And if i am here, so too the anti-Christ Jesus is on the earth.
ANd of the geological and meteriological events to come, MANY will come for the sakes of the three witnesses. amen
The Third witness comes to assemble, the Two Come to witness to hardhearted men and to punish.
But where as the Two will fall and rise, The Third will rise in the power and spirit of Michael, rise into third heaven in the flesh, be translated and will return on the White Horse that is The Father with the Mighty Ones of Heaven and then unite with The Mighty Ones of earth to go on THE DAY OF THE LORD(THAT IS WHEN JESUS ARRIVES IN THE CLOUDS:IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LAST BATTLE OF TRIBULATION)to defeat all gatherd before Isreal.
There now i have given all of you MUCH to sink your teeth into.
Take those portions you will contend with, try to find an error and i will by THE SWORD OF THE WORD OF THE LORD GOd easily cut the false foundations of all out from under them and send them to Paul for futher study. amen
i am nothing0 and made undefeated in ALL SPIRITUAL THINGS BY THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT.
OF THESE FOUR:HOLMAN'S, DOUAY, KJV, AND LAMSA'S A SINGLE UNITED WORD WILL EMERGE.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD JESUS. AMEN
it is a binary relationship.
Now i expect all in here to TRY THEY HARDEST TO find wherein i have erred!
if such i have.
aND WHEN YOU CAN NO MORE OPEN YOUR MOUTHES AGAINST me, YOU WILL THEN EXCOMMUNICATE me FROM THIS CHURCH. AMEN
But remember where as i a man am nothing0, those things i bring you are!
So to make personal attacks alleging i must be prideful, not humble, etc. etc. is seen by myself as your admission of defeat.
Remember little ones, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!
LIVE BY YOUR OWN RULES FIRST!
Now then, as i have cast myself into the dust of the earth becoming nothing0, i now have the upper hand on all of you. For the chief error i have discoverd in the seven churches and their hundreds of descendent churches is they think they are something!
But be now advised Lucifer was a son of GOd and when he thought he was something(assumed importance), a war begain in heaven. Lucifer was destroyed and satan was born. The rest perhaps you know.
i testify now in this place these three things men must say to each other and me to PROVE they are the Sheep of The LOrd Jesus: Jesus is The Lord or The Lord Jesus
                          i am nothing0
                          i agree with Paul 100%
For where as some my know in their hearts they are saved, we who can not read your minds and hearts need to hear from your lips Jesus is The Lord.
FOr satan can not even utter this. To utter it requires EMPOWERMENT BY THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT
P.S. THE WORD "THE" MEANS ONE.
EPHESIANS 4:5 ONE LORD. AMEN
PSALMS 110:1 had two Lords, now by Glory of JEsus by The Father there is ONE LORD AND ONE GOd THE FATHER.
BUT ONLY ONE LORD WE CAN SEE WITH OUR FLESHLY EYES. AMEN
NOw let the gnashing of the teeth begin. amen
 
Let now the leading theologians gather to pull my beam from my eye.
For when we have accomplished that, we will together as one have attained ALL FAITHE. AMEN
But i will not dispare when in the attempt you have only discovered those things you had a notion were correct were in fact errors, and so as not to have to cast them aside and increase in faithe, you will instead cast me aside.
But in no way will you discover that that does not exist in me: A SPRITUAL ERROR.
FOR BY THE SAME SPIRIT THAT WAS THE PROPHETS, JESUS AND THE APOSTLES, i am come.
i come with THE GIFT OF ASSEMBLY.
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME, IT IS NOT WRITTEN OF IN THE RECORDED WORD.
AND WHY? FOR THE WORLD WAS NOT READY.
FOR BROTHER JOHN DID NOT HAVE THE TIME NOR BOOKS AND SPACE IN LIBRARIES TO PLACE ALL THINGS.
ALL THINGS AND ALL THINGS OF REMEMBERANCE BY JESUS COMETH UNTO A man BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, EVEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTHE.
Go get all your coherts and bring them before me and let all of you do what you will with me all at the very same time.
For if not by the testing, what better way is there to learn of errors?
Yea i go to all the many churches.
Now it is your turn.
i am nothing0.
Jesus is The Lord1Praise the Lord1The Lord Jesus. amen
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Sep. 17 2003,8:04)]although many end time prophesies are becoing clearer I still think we have a way to go.  Where is the antichrist?  earth catastrophies? people required to wear the mark of the beast?
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Some earth catastrophies are happening now. As for the rest that happens after the rapture. I just had to clear that up sorry for going off topic. As far as we dont know when Yeshua is coming back. No man knows the day or the hour and I cant remember where it says it but we are commanded to know when it is near. Again sorry for going off topic but I had to clear that up and Im to lazy to read all the posts.  
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earth disasters are always happening...thought they were suppose to be of mass proportions and in diverse places
 
These mass things are after as well. By disasters I ment wars and rumers of war earthquakes where there usually are none. (which im sure is in there)
 
i think what you actually want to see is a man who has ALL FAITHE(AFTER THE FASHION OF PAUL) ask The LORd GOd Jesus Christ of Nazareth for something to occur in your presence and it immediately happens.
This will happen for many months when the Two Witnesses APPLY the power that is given them.
Rev. 11:3-6
But remember those things listed are only a few examples of what they may by ALL FAITHE BRING FORTHE.
FOR in no place is the word "ONLY" USED.
i am nothing0 and know these three JESUS CLASS MIRACLES:
IF A man COMES TO me WHO HAS SOME FAITHE AND ASKS FOR me TO CAST A MOUNTAIN INTO THE SEA, THEN i WILL BY ALL FAITHE DO SO, AND THE MOUNTAIN WILL HIT THE SEA AND THERE WILL NOT BE ANY WAVES.
BUT IF A man  WHO HAS NOT ANY FAITHE COMES TO me AND SAYS FOR me TO CAST A MOUNTAIN INTO THE SEA, THEN LIKEWISE i SHALL DO SO, AND THE WAVES FROM THE MOUNTAIN SHALL WASH he AND his PEOPLE INTO THE SEA.
IF A man COMES TO me WHO HAS SOME FAITHE AND ASKS FOR me TO RAISE his DEAD, THEN i WILL BY ALL FAITHE DO SO AND he AND his BROTHER WILL WALK TOGETHER TALKING OF GOOD TIMES IN THE LORD GOd JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH.
BUT IF A man WHO HAS NOT ANY FAITHE ASKS FOR me TO RAISE his DEAD, THEN LIKEWISE i WILL BY ALL FAITHE DO SO AND he AND his BROTHER WILL WALK TOGETHER ARGUING CONSTANLY OVER THIS: why did you ask adelpit346 to ask The LORd Jesus to raise me from my sleep, i will only die again in agony to be raised at the last day and thrown into the fire.
IF A man  COMES TO me WHO HAS SOME FAITHE AND ASKS FOR me TO CALL WATER FROM THE ROCK, THEN BY ALL FAITHE i SHALL DO SUCH A THING FOR him, AND he AND his PEOPLE SHALL DRINK FROM THIS WATER.
BUT IF A man WHO HAS NOT FAITHE, COMES TO ASK THE SAME, THEN LIKEWISE i WILL BY ALL FAITHE DO SO, AND WHEN he AND his PEOPLE DRINK FROM THE WATER, he AND they WILL CHOKE ON IT. AMEN
Be not deceived Dear Sheep of The LORd JESUS, for He has said ask of anything in my name and I and MY FAther will come and do it. amen
But first we must overcome one mustard seed. amen
i am nothing0.
Jesus is the lord1Praise the lord1The lord Jesus. amen
 
interesting.

*blinks*

anyone here besides me NOT think adelpit is for real? I mean, look at his posts...then look at the way he signs each posts...go ahead, I'll wait while you scroll up...see that? kinda silly, isn't it? i don't know, i'm sorry if you are for real, adelpit, and i'm offending you, but i really think he's just a jokester. Either that, or he's gotten a little too "drunk with the spirit" at one of those crazy new-movement churches
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i am excommunicated of ALL CHURCHES THAT HAVE STOLEN OF THE LORD GOd'S TREASURY AND WENT TO CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS.
Yet where two or three are gatherd together in His(Jesus Christ of Nazareth)name, i am in Church.
And those that received The Word of GOd i was sent to bring, welcomed it and said with me:JESUS IS THE LORD. AMEN
So you are unsure?
Make then your very careful examination, but be not mistaken in this thing, as i AM A CHRISTIAN FATHERED IN BY PAUL, i am never offended and always turn the other cheek.
Until The Father tells me otherwise. amen
i am nothing0
What say ye are?
JESUS IS THE LORD1THE LORD JESUS1PRAISE THE LORD. AMEN
 
Now then the question arises: What then will you say i am when i come down your highways, boulevards, and streets saying out loud for all to hear:Jesus is The Lord, i am nothing0 and agree with Paul 100% then by The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth bring forthe ALL JESUS CLASS MIRACLES THE SAME AS JESUS, PAUL AND THEN GREATER?
i know you well little one, you will say i am satan come now among you.
Howbeit the Chief Apostle said in 1 Corinthians 12:3 (Holman's, KJV, Lamsa's, and Douay) that NO MAN CAN SAY: JESUS IS THE LORD/THE LORD JESUS, except(means without the power of) THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT.
Will you who then have made Paul to be a liar, then say in the ABSENCE OF JESUS CLASS MIRACLES, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN he?
i am on to the game the wolves and the goats in all the churches have been playing with The Sheep.
no man follows me, i send them to Paul.
i came to start no new churches, there are already to many of them and NONE producing out its door so much as one single Apostle.
i tell all to stay put in their church and wait till the above is satisfied. amen
i am nothing0.
JESUS IS THE LORD. AMEN
 
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