Windows 7 Gmail Notifier

someone should write an indexing extension for it so you can search gmail from within windows search, but this is pretty cool stuff
 
nattyg said:
1.) no it wouldn't
2.) you don't even need to write an iFilter for it w/ win7 - much easier now: http://channel9.msdn.com/pdc2008/PC16/
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1. yes it would. You would have to index the entire mailbox file by file over a wan link. It's going to suck. Gmail over imap is painful enough and that's normally just headers. in order to properly index a mailbox you can't get jsut the header..you ahve to do it in real time.
 
Hescominsoon said:
1. yes it would. You would have to index the entire mailbox file by file over a wan link. It's going to suck. Gmail over imap is painful enough and that's normally just headers. in order to properly index a mailbox you can't get jsut the header..you ahve to do it in real time.
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And even then gmail's interface is perfect. I don't even bother to set up mail clients for my gmail account (I would need to do it on 3 machines if I did, with different OSs and that is just a hassle). If it was OWA I would understand wanting to actually use a mail client, as that thing is simply atrocious.
 
1. yes it would. You would have to index the entire mailbox file by file over a wan link. It's going to suck. Gmail over imap is painful enough and that's normally just headers. in order to properly index a mailbox you can't get jsut the header..you ahve to do it in real time.
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real time indexing != instant on; the initial construction is always expensive and intelligent person writing an iFilter would be cognizant of the fact that they need to be aware of system and bandwidth constraints when retrieving the initial set for indexing. receiving subsequent messages after the initial load is rarely an issues. Aside from server side solutions (e.g. a dbms) indexing is rarely real time anyway - it's usually held off until system utilization is low.

Irrespective of that - you're missing the point that searching gmail in Win7 is almost trivial with federated search and can make use of GMail's search facilities. Considering that's one of the core corporate features for Win7, probably something you might want to brush up on as a partner.


And even then gmail's interface is perfect. I don't even bother to set up mail clients for my gmail account (I would need to do it on 3 machines if I did, with different OSs and that is just a hassle). If it was OWA I would understand wanting to actually use a mail client, as that thing is simply atrocious.
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Gmail is perfect for when you deal with small message throughput and messages that don't warrant a lot of categorization (e.g. gmail when receiving upwards of 1k messages a day related to various projects, personnel issues, etc... would be, at best, cumbersome). Labels are okay, but I can find things much more quickly at a glance using folders in Outlook than I can with labels. Besides, nobody uses OWA unless they're in a dire situation...most people use Outlook w/ a RPC over HTTP connection.
 
anyone interested in security doesn't use rpc over http(known exploitation vector that's trivially exploitable) but over https. I use owa anytime i am external form my network as well do my clients.
 
I have yet to meet an exchange admin that exposes it over anything other than https. If we really need to get down to that level of detail for you to attempt to prove a point, we're in a pretty bad state. I would spend more time properly configuring the mail infrastructure for them to use Outlook in this fashion since, you know, pretty much every major corporation sitting on Exchange uses it.
 
nattyg said:
I have yet to meet an exchange admin that exposes it over anything other than https. If we really need to get down to that level of detail for you to attempt to prove a point, we're in a pretty bad state. I would spend more time properly configuring the mail infrastructure for them to use Outlook in this fashion since, you know, pretty much every major corporation sitting on Exchange uses it.
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many exchange admins don't think much of security so if you say http i am not going to assume https. When it comes to configuring mail infrastructure there's nothing to configure..fire up OWA which is by default https and then you don't ahve to worry about constantly setting up secured connection that you can then tunnel outlook through. All of my clients..and i mean all..don't want to mess with vpn or anything else when they can access owa via https.
 
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