but eon though ur posts are more useally more intelegent then mine i prolly spend alot more time during the day than u.
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Precisimo. But Eon, are you a lukewarm Asatru or a fanatically dedicated Asatru?
I doubt most Christians would label themselves as fanatics for God...primarily because that would create this big wide gulf between them and their relationships to the people of this world...huh. Weird. I probably wouldn't even count myself as a fanatic, mainly because I don't think we should BE fanatics about God. I think that's wrong.
However, be cold or be hot. Or stand on the sidelines and point.
I doubt most Christians would label themselves as fanatics for God...primarily because that would create this big wide gulf between them and their relationships to the people of this world...huh. Weird. I probably wouldn't even count myself as a fanatic, mainly because I don't think we should BE fanatics about God. I think that's wrong.
However, be cold or be hot. Or stand on the sidelines and point.
I AM A JESUS FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does that statement make me a fanatic?? would a fanatic be a person on a road side standing on a box spreading the gospel to all who will hear him?? or would that be called evanglizing at Gods command?? or is it praying and shaking people to be healed from a desease?? theres a fine line but which one of the above are more christian than the others??
Ultima, I'd consider myself committed but not fanatical. Very rarely can the word fanatic be used in a good way...
ATown - I consider it an article of my faith that anyone who grabs and shakes me to try and drive out the demons / let in the holy spirit / convert me to Jesus deserves a hammer in the centre of their forehead. Turn about is fair play, after all...
Eon
ATown - I consider it an article of my faith that anyone who grabs and shakes me to try and drive out the demons / let in the holy spirit / convert me to Jesus deserves a hammer in the centre of their forehead. Turn about is fair play, after all...
Eon
*shakes eon saying demons get out and trys to convert eon to christianity* srry couldt resist
. now what if a hindu started shaking u saying their are evil spirits get out and trys to allow pure spirits to enter ??
what about if a hindu shook u would u take a hammer to one of them as well?? or what if a fellow Asatruism beleiver thought u had an evil spirit around u and shook u while ridding u the the evil spirit?
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I think your missing his point. He doesnt want some fanatic of any religion shaking him trying to rid him of evil spirits or demons or whatever.[b said:
Come to think of it, I don't want some fanatic shaking me either. Yeesh. Extremists are extremists, no matter what religion they are. I might not take a hammer to someone, but I do believe I would find the fastest escape necessary.
Cory
again my question still stands: what if a fellow Asatruism beleiver thought u had an evil spirit around u and shook u while ridding u the the evil spirit?
ATown, it doesn't work that way. Spirits really aren't into the whole idea of corporeal form, any more than you could fly like a bird if we transplanted your brain into one. They have a tenuous grip of the real world, because they don't percieve it in the same way that we do.
In any case, I have a hammer on me at all times. It's a very small one in a pocket of my wallet. Anyone who laid hands on me while trying to force their auslander theology on me would receive a large dose of hammer between the eyes - and you should know me well enough by now to know I don't mean I'd haul off and smack them with a handy sledgehammer!
And any fellow Asatruaar ill-mannered enough to treat me like that would be in for a tonguelashing.
Eon
In any case, I have a hammer on me at all times. It's a very small one in a pocket of my wallet. Anyone who laid hands on me while trying to force their auslander theology on me would receive a large dose of hammer between the eyes - and you should know me well enough by now to know I don't mean I'd haul off and smack them with a handy sledgehammer!
And any fellow Asatruaar ill-mannered enough to treat me like that would be in for a tonguelashing.
Eon
hmm ok. now is do spirits have since of right and wrong?? u said they can be mischevous but who isnt??
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Holy crap, we got ourselves an Aegis-fang wielder here...come son of Beornegar, and be welcome in the Hall of Clan Battlehammer.
There's that whole "assault" thing in America, so I can't really strike anyone with a hammer, per se. Excessive use of force and all that. Just shove em into the wall and run off quickly. I don't bode well with fanatics, especially Christian fanatics...they strike me as the worse. If you ask me, I'd say the JWs are more committed to their faith than Christians are, as are the Freemasons. THOSE guys are just plain freaky about their dedication. JWs at least have this initiation of two years' sharing their faith...Christians for the most part end up flatchellating in the pews every Sunday Wednesday.
The spirit world is such an interesting topic though...do they name themselves in their own tongue? Do they try to communicate to us through sounds of this world, through language we speak, or through their own?
There's that whole "assault" thing in America, so I can't really strike anyone with a hammer, per se. Excessive use of force and all that. Just shove em into the wall and run off quickly. I don't bode well with fanatics, especially Christian fanatics...they strike me as the worse. If you ask me, I'd say the JWs are more committed to their faith than Christians are, as are the Freemasons. THOSE guys are just plain freaky about their dedication. JWs at least have this initiation of two years' sharing their faith...Christians for the most part end up flatchellating in the pews every Sunday Wednesday.
The spirit world is such an interesting topic though...do they name themselves in their own tongue? Do they try to communicate to us through sounds of this world, through language we speak, or through their own?
You tend to have the whole assault thing everywhere - but if they're allowed to "lay hands" on me then I'm allowed to lay hands on them, that's the rule isn't it?
Love the Battlehammer reference - I really enjoyed the Crystal Shard...
Regarding spirits - you tend to get a LOT of them. They are as diverse a collection of entities as you're likely to find. Some malicious, some mischevious and some rather full of their own importance. Just like people, I guess. Some of them know more about human morality than others - Is avalanche snow evil? How about a tree that falls on someone?
Eon
Love the Battlehammer reference - I really enjoyed the Crystal Shard...
Regarding spirits - you tend to get a LOT of them. They are as diverse a collection of entities as you're likely to find. Some malicious, some mischevious and some rather full of their own importance. Just like people, I guess. Some of them know more about human morality than others - Is avalanche snow evil? How about a tree that falls on someone?
Eon
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Just except those things aren't sentient...some form of intelligence can be evil, or can be good. I just don't want to mess with an evil spirit, or have an evil spirit mess with me, or even witness what an evil spirit can do. Men can be evil or good...that avalanche example can't be applied to men, because men are conscious of their actions and thoughts. So I wonder if a spirit has the same time of sentience of men, or perhaps more, as they are not to be, as you say, affiliated with our ways and have their own world to pertain to...
product of enviroment lol. ever see harry potter and the dark chamber or watever it was called that froze people and stuff?? in the end it said even though both harry and the evil dude grew up pretty much the same, the only diffrence was in their CHOICES. in our case its a choice that matters not an upbringing. a person who grew up in a druggy nieghborhood doesnt mean he will choice drugs. maybe he will choose to become a doctor to help the rest of the druggys.
Choice, however, presupposes the ability to critically distinguish between good and evil. Human's are pretty much the only species that actually maintains an EXTERNAL arbitration of Good and Evil - and not all of us do, for example Sociopaths aren't immoral, they're simply amoral. The effects, of course, are no better for their victims.
In much the same way, spirits don't subscribe to the same newsletter that we do. They don't have morality - they have their nature instead. It's best to remember the dangers of anthopormorphising something that isn't human when dealing with non-human entities - especially Gods.
Eon
In much the same way, spirits don't subscribe to the same newsletter that we do. They don't have morality - they have their nature instead. It's best to remember the dangers of anthopormorphising something that isn't human when dealing with non-human entities - especially Gods.
Eon
hmm ok so u believe in odin and the other norse dudes. so y would u fight for a gods nature and not their moral ideals??
that aint some. thats all of the spirits in that post. and aisir and vinir?? are they like a diffrent species of spirits??[b said: