Major vs. minor.You agree that many Christian denominations hold different doctrines which are contradictory to each other (even going so far as to point out sometimes even two Catholics, or even two BELIEVERS hold different doctrines).
Does the Gospel include "Calvinism" or "Armenianism"? I don't explain such things to non-believers when witnessing. Why? Because it isn't essential for salvation. The essentials are the "core" of the Gospel. Those there cannot be any disagreement on. We can debate everything else (as we do here).They both believed they had "the core of the Gospel", whatever that is.
Okay. Explain the mechanism of salvation. I hope you know I am not talking about Christ dying for our sins and repenting and believing on Him. I am talking about the actual mechanism. Are we picked before we were born based upon God's knowledge of our choices or based upon a criteria known only to Him?You also say Scripture does not fully explain the mechanism of salvation, and that the Gospel doesn't explain it (and probably other finer points of theology), just the "core principles".
So how we are saved isn't a matter of "core" importance? Sounds pretty important to me.
What I am saying is that what they were arguing about didn't matter so much (I suppose some will disagree with me). One does not need to know TULIP to be saved.It seems strange, to me, to say that the Holy Spirit guides our interpretations to be correct. Yet you also seem to say two of the greatest Protestant teachers in history did not think their interpretation to be authoritative - that is, inspired by the Holy Spirit. (The way Calvin viewed Lutheran and Catholic doctrine - for example regarding the Eucharist - seems to contradict this idea.)
Again, you have swapped doctrine and Gospel.It seems strange to say all believers are called to preach the Gospel, and then say they can't even agree on what the Gospel is constituted of on more than a basic level.
I do not claim brothership with those mentioned. I vehemently reject their gospel as another gospel (Galations 1).It seems strange to say that for the past 2000 years we haven't been able to figure out anything more than some "core principles" - and not even those, for our Mormon, JW, Oneness Pentecostal, Christian Scientist, and Swedenborgian brothers also believe in the sole placement of Scripture and that they are inspired by the Holy Spirit to unerringly interpret Scripture. Yet they cannot even agree Jesus is the Son of God.
Who is not sure?It seems strange to say the Holy Spirit gives us certainty... yet we cannot be sure of anything, not even what the "core" of Christian doctrine is.
What I am saying is that what they were arguing about didn't matter so much (I suppose some will disagree with me). One does not need to know TULIP to be saved.
Again, you have swapped doctrine and Gospel.
I do not claim brothership with those mentioned. I vehemently reject their gospel as another gospel (Galations 1).
/bump - back to the original poll and question
Originally Posted by Icthus
I think this might be a worth while discussion...
Vote and then tell us why.
No yelling or debating please...
- note the "no yelling or debating please" portion. Just your vote and your perspective. Those have been interesting.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.