WALL-E

Tek7

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My wife and I went to see WALL-E earlier today. I need to start winding down for the night, so I'm not going to write a full or even partial review, but I will say: It was amazing. I strongly encourage everyone to go see it.

EDIT: And if you don't want to take my word for it, check Metacritic's WALL-E page, which lists 17 perfect scores (100) from a variety of media.
 
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Wife and I went to see this tonight as well....and I was blown away by the magnitude of it. Yes its a "children's" movie, but when hasn't Pixar made a film that adults enjoyed as well. The story has a powerful message to it while maintaining a childlike quality with amazing special effects and a touching story. The first half of the film, if not more-so, are done with no "words" and yet still make such an impact through implied movements.

A Def. must see for everyone!
 
I will second the poor review of Cars. There is no adjective to describe the level of dislike I have for that movie.

Yesssss.

Anyway, the comment I made that would insinuate that someone would have to be 8 years old to enjoy Pixar movies is mostly sarcasm and goofiness. Just so you guys (or, more specifically, Pixar fans) don't think I'm being openly hostile >_>
 
I generally enjoy Pixar movies. Toy Story 2 in particular is one of my favorite movies ever. I just really wasn't fond of Finding Nemo and really not cars. I am hoping the wife and I can see WALL-E just because we haven't been to see a movie since....ummm....Munich.
 
are you saying it is just an enjoyable family film? or is it funny?
Yes, yes, and the film is a masterpiece. I don't use the term lightly.

I won't repeat my rant about how all Pixar films are gold, although I'm tempted to write out another long essay on how Pixar has achieved what Disney once did during its golden age and only wishes it could achieve now.

It's hard to put into words just why I felt WALL-E was amazing. I left the film thinking this was the only real science fiction film in American film in the last 10 years. (I, Robot was a farce. Asimov must be spinning in his grave.) More importantly, the film was more emotionally engaging than any other Western movie in recent memory (with the possible exception of Everything is Illuminated).

It's clear that Pixar doesn't buy into the narrow-minded notion that animation, whether hand-drawn or computer-generated, is only for children.
The story is about the terrible consequences of humanity's worship at the altar of mass consumption. It's about the nature of love--patient, long-suffering, and putting others first. It's about the difference between existing and living. It's about memory and how it relates to identity. Just as Toy Story 2 handled the difficult themes of mortality and the value of personal relationships weighed against fame, WALL-E tackles complex themes and does so masterfully.
WALL-E is a film that proves that great storytellers don't need sex or violence to tell a mature story--"mature" in the sense of telling a deep and emotionally engaging story.

Yes, kids will still like it because WALL-E is cute and Eve flies. The film surpasses the technical and visual achievements of every Pixar film that preceded it. (Several scenes in the film had me thinking I would give a kidney to tour the Pixar facilities and see how many computers it took to render the movie.) I'm already thinking of saving up for a Playstation 3 and a copy of WALL-E on BluRay when it's released.

Disney will sell the action figures. They'll package coupons for Green Windex (or whatever it's called) with the DVD release. They'll rake in money from the video game licensing fees. But don't let Disney's corporate greed distract you from the genuine and striking value of this movie. (Ironically, corporate greed is another social blight lampooned in WALL-E.) Disney long ago lost its ability to tell engaging stories on this level, but they at least have the good sense to pour money into a studio that can.
 
Disney will sell the action figures. They'll package coupons for Green Windex (or whatever it's called) with the DVD release. They'll rake in money from the video game licensing fees. But don't let Disney's corporate greed distract you from the genuine and striking value of this movie. (Ironically, corporate greed is another social blight lampooned in WALL-E.) Disney long ago lost its ability to tell engaging stories on this level, but they at least have the good sense to pour money into a studio that can.

You sort of made that review unenjoyable with that rant right there >_>

you and your corporations :p

Also, I wouldn't say that WALL-E would be the most emotionally engaging movie since... whatever that movie is you listed. I mean, that's hardly giving other movies that much credit.

Anyway... I'll be renting this one.
 
You sort of made that review unenjoyable with that rant right there >_>

you and your corporations :p
At least I gave them credit for recognizing talent when they see it. If they can't create great stories any more, they can at least funnel money into studios that can.
Also, I wouldn't say that WALL-E would be the most emotionally engaging movie since... whatever that movie is you listed. I mean, that's hardly giving other movies that much credit.
Name another American movie NOT rated R in the last 5 years that was emotionally gripping.

And for those who don't think American cinema is circling the drain, I challenge you to say that with a straight face after watching this trailer.

Note that that trailer is for a real movie. That is being created in real space-time. By actual human beings. I could not make this up if I tried.

Pixar: WALL-E

Disney: Beverly Hills Chihuahua

'nuff said.
 
At least I gave them credit for recognizing talent when they see it. If they can't create great stories any more, they can at least funnel money into studios that can.
Name another American movie NOT rated R in the last 5 years that was emotionally gripping.

I'm sorry, but I just lost respect for your opinion. All of a sudden it has to be a movie you can take your kids to for it to be a good movie? :confused:

I could come up with a list, but you'd make up more stuff like that.

And anyway, yeah, Beverly Hills Chihuahua is a dumb movie idea.

But that's one movie.

By one company.

And that's representing the entire industry? No, sorry, it's not. And it's supposed to be a kiddie movie anyway, so why WOULD it make an ounce of sense to begin with? (que your rant about how kids movies by Pixar make lots of sense and are gold movies that can be enjoyed by everyone and not just kids and their parents)

If BH Chihuahua is representative of how the American movie industry is going down the toilet (in your not so humble opinion, I might add), than I'd say with the same logic that the Wii is going down, baby, DOWN. Why?

This.

http://kiwibox.com/article/36822
 
I'm sorry, but I just lost respect for your opinion. All of a sudden it has to be a movie you can take your kids to for it to be a good movie?
Oy, that's not what I meant.

I meant that American filmmakers feel they need to include blood, gore, and sex to make a film emotionally gripping. That's obviously not true at all. While there's a long history of violence and sexuality even in classic literature, many of the most enduring stories feature neither.

I applaud Pixar for showing other studios that you don't need an anti-hero slitting people's throats, baking their remains into pies, and singing about it all the while to make a great film.

(For those of you unfamiliar with recent movie releases and thinking I'm a very, very sick person right now, I feel compelled to share that I was making a reference to Sweeney Todd.)

On the other hand, some films do require at least violence to deliver their message. I can't imagine Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, or Passion of the Christ having quite the impact they did without showing violent scenes that children have no business watching.
And anyway, yeah, Beverly Hills Chihuahua is a dumb movie idea.

But that's one movie.

By one company.
But the very fact that the movie can be made and that so many dollars are being thrown toward promoting it shows the film industry is in bad shape. Dismissing Beverly Hills Chihuahua as "one movie by one company" is akin to saying, "Well, sure, the canary's dead, but that's just one canary in the coal mine." Beverly Hills Chihuahua isn't so much a movie as it is a symptom of a larger problem.

Think of it this way: Do you think Paris Hilton would be as famous as she is if our culture and society weren't so diseased?
And that's representing the entire industry? No, sorry, it's not. And it's supposed to be a kiddie movie anyway, so why WOULD it make an ounce of sense to begin with? (que your rant about how kids movies by Pixar make lots of sense and are gold movies that can be enjoyed by everyone and not just kids and their parents)
Schlock is schlock, whether it's rated R or rated G. Just because a movie is geared toward children doesn't mean the screenwriters get to check their brains at the door. Even The Little Engine That Could, as simple as it is, had a point.

Since this thread's already gone way off-topic, for which I take the lion's share of responsibility, I'll try to close the subject by saying: Everyone has their own tastes in film and they're all free to spend their money watching whatever they will. I doubt anything anyone's posted in this thread is going to change anyone's preferences in film.
[...] I'd say with the same logic that the Wii is going down, baby, DOWN. Why?

This.

http://kiwibox.com/article/36822
Oy. As if I needed another painful reminder that the bulk of Wii titles are shovelware or ports. I still hold it's a great system with several excellent titles (e.g. Super Mario Galaxy, Matroid Prime 3: Corruption, LostWinds, etc.), but I cringe every time Ubisoft announces a new Wii title.

I guess people are just as likely to make a lousy game as they are to make a lousy film.
 
I really don't like the idea that a movie has to be rated R to be considered emotionally involving. Very little movies can profit by going R. I also dislike the idea that family movies are only for children. It's like modern society says you need to watch R rated stuff once you are an adult to be considered one, that's not true. I liked Monsters Inc., Toy Story, Toy Story 2 > Finding Nemo, Cars, and Ratatouille. I would stop at calling them all gold however. The "lesser than" movies seemed rushed omitting in quantity some side jokes and just really not feeling as complete in the moral resolution of the film. Viewing the commentary extras on Ratatouille they where actually in production of it and still did not have a plot. That being said I'd still say the worst of Pixars movies is better than most media made today by any country.

Disney is nothing like it used to be. Most likely we won't see them producing classics like Sleeping Beauty or Snow White ever again. I did like "High School Musical" and even the cash in sequel was enjoyable enough. "Enchanted" was good too. I'd place them somewhere between the greater than and lesser than Pixar Movies. I expect (and I am usually correct about such guesses) that Wall-e will be one of the greater thans but I will have to wait till it's on DVD to see (I do not go to movies).
 
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But the very fact that the movie can be made and that so many dollars are being thrown toward promoting it shows the film industry is in bad shape. Dismissing Beverly Hills Chihuahua as "one movie by one company" is akin to saying, "Well, sure, the canary's dead, but that's just one canary in the coal mine." Beverly Hills Chihuahua isn't so much a movie as it is a symptom of a larger problem.

It's called capitalism. If people are stupid enough to make Beverly Hills Chihuahua, than you can take the massive crushing loss that the lack of profits it will bring in. Let the market work :p

I really don't like the idea that a movie has to be rated R to be considered emotionally involving.

WAT!!!

I didn't say that it HAD to be rated R to be a good movie. I'm just saying that excluding R rated movies is silly.

Oy. As if I needed another painful reminder that the bulk of Wii titles are shovelware or ports. I still hold it's a great system with several excellent titles (e.g. Super Mario Galaxy, Matroid Prime 3: Corruption, LostWinds, etc.), but I cringe every time Ubisoft announces a new Wii title.

I still hold that the movie industry is a great industry with many excellent titles. ;)

Think of it this way: Do you think Paris Hilton would be as famous as she is if our culture and society weren't so diseased?

I still hold that there are many awesome, bordering-on-epic movies being made these days. You just have to go beyond PG.
 
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WAT!!!

I didn't say that it HAD to be rated R to be a good movie. I'm just saying that excluding R rated movies is silly.

I wasn't quoting you just modern society in general so np :)

I still hold that the movie industry is a great industry with many excellent titles. ;)

Now I will quote you but only to give my opinion on movies today :). I do think there are a few decent movies being made but it nothing like the movies of the 1930s-1950s its not even like the movies of the 1980's Example: Compare the first 3 Star Wars movies to modern Star Wars movies... wait there is no comparison blech.. and I am not looking forward to the latest Indiana Jones either. Look at the movies that get nominated by the Oscars double blech! Personally I find most modern movies out as having CGI without plot, cash in sequel fever, trite anit-heroes, shockfeasts just to shock you, language/scenes added just to get a higher rating and a greater leaning towards immoral points of view. There are decent movies out there but it's all going downhill over all.
 
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I really enjoyed this movie. Only thing I could complain about was that there wasn't enough space battles, and no Pyros, oddly. I love how the humans turned out near the middle of the movie. Classic. XD

/too much TF2 (X_x)
 
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