Thorns, druid wolf form, & stoopidd drood. Plz read.

Daire

Daire

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Thorns
Thorns sprout from the target, causing 18 nature damage to attackers when hit. Lasts 10 minutes. 320 mana.

Thorns is a buff druids apply to themselves and their party members. 18 damage per attack is not a great deal, but in PvP it can’t hurt. In PVE, thorns increases the amount of damage a tank is doing to whatever is attacking, so its helps them to maintain a monster’s focus on them (keeping a monster’s focus on oneself is called holding aggro). Not a game changing spell by any means, but nice nonetheless.

Im posting this because someone said thorns generates more aggro to the caster of thorns. Im pretty sure that is not true (:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage:_How_to_Help_a... <-- a how to help mages and their aggro management problems...

So..the druid do not from wowwiki says....

Druid

You give water and an Arcane Intellect buff, but you should get a Mark of the Wild buff out of it. Do not get Thorns in instances; you do not want to create more threat. Balance druids can use their Tier 7 talent Moonkin Form. This aura will increase the critical hit chance of spells by 3% for the druid's party members within a 30-yard radius.

When there is a druid (healing) and a mage in a group they should stay close to each other in the back. If it happens that the druid gets aggro the mob aproches the druid and then the mage will cast Frost Nova so the mobs get stuck to the ground giving the tank/offtank chance to retake aggro.




so......


do not cast thorns on party members if you are having aggro mgmt problems.:confused: :eek:

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so like..a million levels ago when gilidararararar, woven, harlee and I(daire - formerly dymphna) were all little toons 4 manning instances (and yes we did 4 man all instances until uldaman I think --- and I HEALED) I used to cast thorns on everything(and by everything I mean if I saw a mob I would prob. try to cast thorns on that too) because I knew nothing about wow and Renee would always take it off or ask me not to cast it on her..ok I get that now even though I still do it on accident sometimes lol.

Anyway, my point is if you are with a resto druid and it casts thorns on you - those thorns are not going to generate EVEN MORE aggro to the already highly selfish aggro druid healbot monsters..... :eek: :confused: :eek: :eek: so I hope this clears up any confussion on what thorns actually does.

Maybe I just misunderstood what this person said, although I'm pretty sure I didnt...lol. Anyway, Ive been reading about thorns for an hour to be positive its not true and I am correct...


So..apparently druids are getting a level 10 wolf form.......... today someone asked in the trade channel "at level 10 how do I get my wolf form, im a level 10 druid?" My response was sarcastic..as could be expected from me "you have to travel to the dark portal and cross over, on the other side there is a relic, once you get it you will have level 10 druid wolf form" I get a /whisper ..the name will remain annony. "Will you take me there please". . . . . . . . .


Ive been playing with old schools finest a bit or running with pugs. SIGN #1 your pug will wipe 6 million times in shadow labs... " are you stupid you don't have a cape or a hat on" coming from another level 70 character...:eek:


Ok.. have a nice day.
 
oooh you have no idea lol.

im actually a pretty happy camper, just really........amazed at people sometimes? hehee
 
When thorns "procs" from being hit, that damage is associated with the character who the thorns damage came from. The thorns damage is added into their threat calculation. Thus, if a mage is spamming spells and pulls aggro and does manages get hit a few times, the thorns proc'ing adds additional threat to the mage's current threat. This can sometimes tip the scales and make it just a bit harder for the tanks to regain aggro or cause the target to turn back to the mage once taunt/growl wears off. This would also apply to healers.

A note to Holly- I have long since stopped trolling the WoW forums for my own sanity ;) Some of us just can't handle the immense amount of stupidity out there, and I am one of them :D
 
So if this is the case, why would a purple healbot aggro machine cast thorns? I mean I read about thorns for a good while and did not see any mention of this, so maybe im just utterly confused?
 
Azolas said:
When thorns "procs" from being hit, that damage is associated with the character who the thorns damage came from. The thorns damage is added into their threat calculation. Thus, if a mage is spamming spells and pulls aggro and does manages get hit a few times, the thorns proc'ing adds additional threat to the mage's current threat. This can sometimes tip the scales and make it just a bit harder for the tanks to regain aggro or cause the target to turn back to the mage once taunt/growl wears off. This would also apply to healers.

A note to Holly- I have long since stopped trolling the WoW forums for my own sanity ;) Some of us just can't handle the immense amount of stupidity out there, and I am one of them :D
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Ok wait a second..lol.. you are saying what Im trying to say I think maybe? Its not the caster of thorns who is generating the threat it is the person wearing the thorns generating the threat?
 
What? You don't have your wolf form? I got it as well as my chicken form (helps me shed aggro).
 
Sorry to hear that, Faust.

I've been working on getting the oh-so-secret gerbil form. You know the one, every time you are healed you have a 33% chance to spit out a smaller replica of yourself with 10% of your life?

I also wasted my other secret form slot on spider form. The ability to climb up walls is kind of cool, but I find it's wasted in the Outlands when you get flying form.
 
Let's make this a little more confusing...

I submit that the casting of the buff, thorns, generates threat. This is the same as when a priests Forts during combat or a pali casts Blessing of Might on someone. BUT, the threat caused by the physical damage of thorns is associated with the character that thorns is on.

/giggle
 
example42 said:
Let's make this a little more confusing...

I submit that the casting of the buff, thorns, generates threat. This is the same as when a priests Forts during combat or a pali casts Blessing of Might on someone. BUT, the threat caused by the physical damage of thorns is associated with the character that thorns is on.

/giggle
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Yes I have found that to be the case. Personally I only cast thorns on the tank/OT. I never cast it on clothies... if they have aggro why would they want a buff that makes it harder to shed that aggro? :D
 
faust said:
Yes I have found that to be the case. Personally I only cast thorns on the tank/OT. I never cast it on clothies... if they have aggro why would they want a buff that makes it harder to shed that aggro? :D
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you cast it on a clothie, they will prob be verrrrrrrrrrrrrry angry at you.
 
On the other hand... as often as I pull agro, it may not be a bad thing to have me doing bonus damage *grin*
 
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