This is pathetic.
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Avesther
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Already is in Canada.
Jango
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Well, this is the US. We have the right to free speech, those Christian people are just exaggerating.
Avesther
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We have the right to free speech too. Well, at least we thought we did. You can say anything you want, except anything that can be misinterpreted as hating any specific group of people.
Emphasis on misinterpreted added.
In Canada, it is okay for the Muslims to preach that those who are not of the Islamic faith as infedels, not okay for Christians to say the same of homosexuals.
How does that song in the South Park movie go again, you know the one about Canada?
Anybody who actually believes Canada is a democtratic state is only fooling themselves. We live under tyranny. The U.S.A. liberated the wrong country with Iraq. Unfortunately, our government is a wolf in sheeps clothing, especially if the communist liberals get back into power. Not to start any political flame war or anything.
Emphasis on misinterpreted added.
In Canada, it is okay for the Muslims to preach that those who are not of the Islamic faith as infedels, not okay for Christians to say the same of homosexuals.
How does that song in the South Park movie go again, you know the one about Canada?
Anybody who actually believes Canada is a democtratic state is only fooling themselves. We live under tyranny. The U.S.A. liberated the wrong country with Iraq. Unfortunately, our government is a wolf in sheeps clothing, especially if the communist liberals get back into power. Not to start any political flame war or anything.
Avesther
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Its not supposed to happen in the U.S.A. either.
Jango
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Please, at least the US has good reason. Would you rather the wrong man be put in jail, or have a terrorist walk the streets? Go to Cuba, they imprison and kill people for no reason there.[b said:
interesting article.
I think that if it even comes CLOSE to coming to pass, the government may have to do some back peddling on a few issues, before those people move to another state to start there!!! or other people get the idea, and it spreads. the gay country, the communist one, one for uni students who don't agree with anything, lol.
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I think that if it even comes CLOSE to coming to pass, the government may have to do some back peddling on a few issues, before those people move to another state to start there!!! or other people get the idea, and it spreads. the gay country, the communist one, one for uni students who don't agree with anything, lol.
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.se3ker.
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peon what province are you at??[b said:
i don't think liberals are going to be back in power...they lied, cheated us of our money, and Dalton didn't help his party by introducing health premiums in Ontario...those premiums are stupid, low income families pay more % of their income than rich lol, go figure...
to be on topic...Could we not use the term marketing as a reaching out tool rather than preaching...I don't see anything wrong with it, infact that's what missionaries are doing when they go out.
Master~Plan
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who wants south carolina? at least pick a good state...
Well anyway I think some persecution can only help christianity. I don't think God is interested in establishing an earthly empire. Haven't we learned from the crusades? If everything did work out, that means they would be on thier own, and they wouldn't have a army/ formal govt checks and balances. That would pretty much be an overgrown cult waiting to happen. Its probably more satire than anything. People trying to get attention, and rally protestors. Should christians try to uphold christian ethics on an unsaved world? I don't think so. Lets love our people and invite them in with sincerity, instead of tell them how sinful they are. If they are not a christian it really doesn't matter how sinful they are. Thats my ideal philosophy. easier said than done though...
Well anyway I think some persecution can only help christianity. I don't think God is interested in establishing an earthly empire. Haven't we learned from the crusades? If everything did work out, that means they would be on thier own, and they wouldn't have a army/ formal govt checks and balances. That would pretty much be an overgrown cult waiting to happen. Its probably more satire than anything. People trying to get attention, and rally protestors. Should christians try to uphold christian ethics on an unsaved world? I don't think so. Lets love our people and invite them in with sincerity, instead of tell them how sinful they are. If they are not a christian it really doesn't matter how sinful they are. Thats my ideal philosophy. easier said than done though...
Jango
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Well, if Christians preach a message of condemnation, I'm not surprised people don't want to hear it. Infact, I wouldn't want to hear it either.[b said:
Jango
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God doesn't see homosexuality as a sin greater then a lie, as others have said, God doesn't see "homosexuality", He sees "sin". Homosexuality is wrong, yes, but it is no worse then a white lie. I know a few Christians who love God with all their heart, and are gay.
Thaddius
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While no sin in Gods eyes is greater than another, being born again does not give us a license to keep on sinning. In the case of your "Christian" Homosexual friends, it is not our place to judge their salvation, but if they are homosexual and continue to do it, we do have the responsibility as their brother/sister in Christ to point out that what they do is against what God has taught.
Cory
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Jango
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It does not give us the liscence to keep sinning, yet God does not remove the human nature of us, so we will sin. Have you ever been addicted to a sin? If you haven't, you don't know how hard it is to stop.
TastyWheat
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Are you trying to find an excuse to say it is fine for this person to continue to practice homosexuality?[b said:
Because of Christ's Atonement, we are able to accept Him into our lives as the Great Physician. At no point has Christ said, "Even though you've accepted Me, Sin is a terminal disease from which there is no cure. Might as well give up." He tell us to press on to maturity, which logically must involve giving in less and less to our Sin nature. Just because something is "hard" to stop doing doesn't give us an excuse to keep on sinning. I hope that's not what you are implying.
Master~Plan
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yeah, a verse that cut me deep was Hebrews 10:26. Don't read that if you want to live in ignorance. I have been struggling through it. The Bible is like a double edged sword...[b said:
Thaddius
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Actually I have Jango, I have overcome a drug addiction and a sex addiction. While it is hard to stop it is possible. Due to alcoholism and drug addiction running in my family it is very easy for me to become addicted. I will always be an addict. That does not mean I will keep using drugs or allowing myself to fall into a sexual trap with pornography or otherwise. I have to keep myself out of situations where I will be tempted, and that is my responsiblity to overcome temptation. We are human, yes, and we will most likely keep on sinning throughout our lives. Our goal is to strive to be pure, like Christ.[b said:
Someday I will hopefully gain the courage to share my testemony with you all here.
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Cory
Jango
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No, yet can't a person be a homosexual, and be a better Christian then you or I?[b said:
I guess the point is, Christians condemn homosexuals a lot, yet they themselves sin! Is that not hypocriticle?
TastyWheat
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In the way you've phrased it, no.[b said:
I hate to break it down to semantics, but it all falls on the word "be" in the phrase "be a homosexual". You say it like this person has accepted homosexuality as the only way of life, and that he is trying to be a Christian on top of that. There are huge differences in the implications between being a homosexual and struggling with homosexual tendencies.
Jango
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Fine, I'll rephrase. Can't a homosexual still be saved?