Suicide

Suicide is murdering yourself, so yes, it is wrong. Plus, most problems people kill themselves over can be solved, they just need a little work.
 
If you take the "do not kill" commandment and combine it with the "love your neighbor as you love yourself" thing, it is impossible to justify suicide, if you are a Christian. If you love yourself so much as to kill your own life, that means you should love your neighbor with as much love; therein lies the problem, to love your neighbor that much means to kill them and thus breach a commandment.

And besides all that, suicide seems like such a cheap way of entering God's presence. I mean, I can't wait to die, but I would like to think I could further God's Will with the time He has allotted me, which alone makes life worth living.
 
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Quote[/b] (timor @ Mar. 04 2004,1:57)]A better question - can you be forgiven if you do commit suicide?
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we have no way of knowing.

we're under grace for sins we cause until we're convicted of them.

but at the same time, we're to obey the law and respect our bodies (which equates to don't kill yourself).


it's not up to us to say if somene will be forgiven or not for it. As for me, I'd rather not take the risk.
 
Well my life was s***(incase thats a swear word)
and I went to church and I got the "Thou shall not kill" answer, I mean I don't buy it, to kill is to rob someone of they'r life, I mean seriously, you do not rob your self of your life if you want it... it like active deathcare or whats it called in the states, when you sign that they should pull the plug.

I came up with a teori more along the lines of: if you kill yourself you turn the back to what God did for you, but that again failes by the fact that it would just get you faster to heaven wich is the point for us beeing here anyway.

What would happen if you wrote a Note and went to a lawyer that said your friend could kill you cuz you don't wanna suicide..?

About that forgiveness thing, dunno, thought about it though, more like, if I shoot my self I can't say "sorry" if I drown my self there would be plenty of timel...
 
According to dictionary.com:

kill
v. killed, kill·ing, kills
v. tr.

1.  
    a.  To put to death.
    b.  To deprive of life
2.       To put an end to; extinguish

Signing to pull the plug is, in effect, putting yourself to death, depriving yourself of life, and putting an end to your life.  There is no way around it: suicide is murdering one's self; suicide is killing one's self.  The Bible says "Do not kill."

As to the forgiveness question, mere men have no ability to determine God's view on the matter.  We'll just have to wait and ask.  Or, I suppose, you could take the shortcut and find out the hard way:O

*edit* And if you question whether something is considered a curse word here, please err on the side of caution.*edit*
 
Hmm... I'll remember to visit you if I do, tell you all about it.

But, thou shall not kill, kk, but what about animals?
then you say! we are not animals!!
ad then I say, yes we are, we'r animals with a soul.
then you say Join greenpeace
Then I say *bannreasonintheesemerewords*
Not an easy topic...

Sadly neither of my friends who comitted suiside were christians so I have no hope for them... but still *rambeling on about crap*

But about Death termenating in hospitals, would you rather be in agony in 3 years than ending it quickly? whold you wanna take the chans of becoming better, and having to breathe with a tube? are you saying it would be suicide to ease the pain in a given situation where the only outcome is liberation or pain...?
 
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Quote[/b] ]If you take the "do not kill" commandment and combine it with the "love your neighbor as you love yourself" thing, it is impossible to justify suicide, if you are a Christian.
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Committing suicide is like a mercy killing. You are putting yourself out of your misery. Ending suffering would be a compassionate and loving thing to do, so suicide and mercy killing could be considered compatible when talking about loving your neighbour as loving yourself.
 
Good point, Grand Master. See, once people start challenging "Thou shalt not kill" by citing, for example, war, most Christians claim that the commandment is actually "Thou shalt not murder." Can you really murder yourself? Interesting semantics debate...
 
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Quote[/b] (Eztral @ Mar. 04 2004,3:02)]to kill is to rob someone of they'r life, I mean seriously, you do not rob your self of your life if you want it...
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but aren't you supposed to give your life to God?
 
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Quote[/b] ]. See, once people start challenging "Thou shalt not kill" by citing, for example, war, most Christians claim that the commandment is actually "Thou shalt not murder."
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I take the Commandment to mean that you should not kill for personal gain. I believe that it is not a sin to fight in the Armed Services to protect your country. ( The same with self-defence. )
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Quote[/b] ]but aren't you supposed to give your life to God?
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Entirely different. We're supposed to give our devotion to God.
 
So, fighting in the name of your country is not personal gain? It can be seen as personal gain for the following reasons:

1) Benefits your country, benefits you.
2) You kill him before he kills you.

#2 also applies to self defense. I think you should revise your criteria.
 
Of course, I thought it was extremely obvious that I meant for money or some material thing.
 
Well, there are things I think are extremely obvious, too....but I've learned not to take things for granted.
 
I need to check out the Hebrew to see whether it's actually "kill" or "murder"...someone remind me to do that...
 
i do believe it is murder, because it is jewish law that if your neighbors donkey gets lose and kills your son, you can kill your neighbor....
 
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Quote[/b] ]but aren't you supposed to give your life to God?
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Quote[/b] ]Entirely different. We're supposed to give our devotion to God.
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no, I disagree. I gave God my life physical, and spiritual. When we give our lives to God, we are no longer our own. Sounds wierd, but Biblical 1Cor. 6:15
 
We are told to take up our cross if we wish to follow Jesus.

If I were to take my own life I would dropping my cross so to speak. And not following our Lord's commandment.

We as Christians have accepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Since He is our Lord our lives' belong to him, and by taking are own life we would in a way be taking them from Him.
 
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