Should Christians leave the zoo?

MeridianFlight

MeridianFlight

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I'm not talking about whether or not Christians should leave the zoo because of evolutionist propaganda masquerading as science (w00t! cheap shot w00t!). I'm not even referring to a literal zoo. I'm talking about politics. Should Christians be affiliated with the primary political parties?

Obviously a significant cause of the resurgence of the Republican Party has been the "Christian Right". However, if you notice, the Republican Party hasn't been fairing too well as of late, largely due to questionable practices. It seems as if the "Christian Right" was used. Surprise! However, if Christians do not participate in voting, what kind of implications does that have?

Now, clearly, this is an extremely sticky issue. Christians within a single church can't always agree on what type of music should be played, let alone an entire nation agreeing on which direction to move in politically.

Your take?
 
America has fallen far! We are far from being a Christian country. The republican party has turned left to fill the void the democrats created when they went socialist. The two major parties main objective is to keep power. It is no longer to fight for a better America.

The only thing I hoped for when I helped vote president Bush in for a second term was to keep from losing any more ground in the supreme court. Even that is not a sure thing:mad:

It is a sad state of affairs indeed.

However, I for one am not ready to give up the fight. If we 'leave the zoo' who will we have to watch our back? Noone! This country is sliding fast, but imagine where it would be if Christians had pulled out of politics 20 years ago.

As for the party issue. I was a staunch republican for decades. No more. After having control of the house, senate, and white house they have made a mess of things. Not as bad as the democrats would have mind you, but a mess none the less.

Not sure what party I will be joining yet...maybe the Constitution party?
 
I have to agree with HCS on this.

If you don't vote I don't want to hear it. However, if you do vote then instead of whining about how things are being done spend some time on your knees in spiritual warfare for our leaders. We may not like who is in office but that does not mean we should not pray for them. God can work things out.

Prayer is the most important thing we can do for our country. I am so sick of hearing people complain when they are the very ones who voted for that person to get in office. I mean we can not even imagine the stress that these people are under. Only God knows what is going on in these peoples hearts and behind the scenes. If you really want to know who to vote for get on your knees and hear what God tells you and vote for that person. That is the best way to find out. Also don't let other people influence your decision.

If we back out of doing our "right" by not voting then we will never get to see any changes that so badly need to be done in our country. So no I don't think we should "leave the zoo".
 
Hes makes a great point. I feel that it is best when we are voting to see where the candidate stands in his beliefs. Their character often will be revealed if you listen to what they are saying and see how they actually voted on issues.

Priceless is right; she is stating what we are commanded to do.

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Timothy 2:1-4

In addition, our vote should prayerfully count, for God expects us to obey our authorities. Ultimately, it is the LORD that has control of our governmental officials.

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Romans 13:1 & 2

Another call for our nation is something that can begin with each individual, that being to consider our righteousness. Most importantly we need to consider that without Jesus we have no righteousness. Once we accept Him as our only Hope of Salvation our righteousness should be exemplified as we strive to live as instructed in the Word by the power of the Holy Spirit. As bad as things look at times, I firmly believe that the amount of salt that we have here as Christians protects us far more than we may realize this side of Heaven.

Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. Proverbs 14:34
 
Here's a novel concept - why not become educated on political issues?

Most American candidates manage to stand while paying only lip service to important issues like Trade, Diplomacy, Foreign Aid, Energy, Education and Health. Law and Order and Defence are more often covered in political debates, but ask the right questions here too.

Stop forcing candidates to memorise a succession of non-answers to non-questions about Faith and Family. Especially Abortion. There are now so many ways of sounding like you're saying you're both for and against it while actually saying you're neither for and against it that the question ceases to have any meaning in the political arena.

Once you're educated, if you want to pray for guidance in making your choice then knock yourself out - but why should you expect God to shoulder the burden of the responsibility for you? Does he shovel your drive if you pray? Does he fill in your taxes? No.
 
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I've been posting this in several threads lately: Democracy is not God's great plan. In fact, we shouldn't be wrapped up in politics at all. Should we stay informed and participate by voting? Well, God would expect us to vote for a leader who rules by what God says. That isn't going to happen, so we're stuck voting for the best of what's left. Just because a politician claims to be a Christian it doesn't mean he/she follows the Lord's commands when doing their job.

Prayer is the absolute best thing we can offer.
 
Mr_Slice said:
Just because a politician claims to be a Christian it doesn't mean he/she follows the Lord's commands when doing their job.

Prayer is the absolute best thing we can offer.
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I agree to a point. But we can apply that same statement to anyone. And yes prayer is the best thing we can offer but why not vote? I mean if Christians everywhere had that same viewpoint we would be worse off than where we are. If more Christians got out and voted just maybe a change could be made.
 
My point is that voting isn't going to change anything. George W. Bush may be a Christian, but does he rule this nation or does God? If there were a politician that solely ran based on the intention of listening to God and running this country by His command, I'd be in total agreement. But as it stands now, a Christian politician isn't much different at all from a non-Christian politician. Separation of church and state calls for them to lay aside their religious beliefs when dealing with this country's laws, and that in itself seems like turning your back on Christ in my eyes.
 
Mr_Slice said:
My point is that voting isn't going to change anything. George W. Bush may be a Christian, but does he rule this nation or does God?
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I guess my question is how do you know that he doesn't pray and seek the face of God before he makes any decision? You don't know for sure that he doesn't, and he is in there with alot of people who are not Christians that he has to deal with every day of his life. Also we do live in a democracy so decisions are sometimes made that he does not agree with because of the way citizens vote.

This is one of those situations were we can say that you don't know the man's heart only God does.
 
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