Ron Paul is out!
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Odale
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And I thought Hillary held on too long...
Kidan
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I say I'll still write him in.
Keero
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Bah, then I'm not voting unless God tells me. The other people are disappointing. >_>
Hescominsoon
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it's called a write in vote..ron paul gets my vote no mater what. mcinsane and jihadobama are not going to get my vote.
Hescominsoon
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if you don't vote then you really don't have any reason to complain about the results..
Obama isn't muslim, in case you were wondering.
Odale
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Hescominsoon
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the truth hurts. look at his associations past and present.
Odale
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/shrugs
I agree that both parties did a poor job putting forth candidates for this election. McCain, Obama, and Clinton as frontrunners? This is the best America can put forth for the leader (albeit one not as powerful as the media would have us believe) of its nation? It's clear that people of truly exceptional character aren't interested in the position.
Oprah was willing to endorse Obama, but she'd be a fool to run for President herself. The move from media mogul would be a tremendous cut in pay--and power.
Odale
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I have a question, and I do not mean to flame anyone with it, but if the candidate you wanted lost their party's presidential nomination, then why not vote for the candidate that won the nomination, instead writing one in? The presidential nominee in the party with your write in probably has more in common than the opposing party's nominee does. You are only taking away votes for the same party's candidate, aren't you? So why not keep some of the same ideals instead of losing most of them completely?
Just a thought/question.
Just a thought/question.
inkelis
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I agree with Odale. It does nobody any good to vote for someone who is not gonna win. Your just taking votes away from the lesser of the two evils (Figure of speech). Again, not to flame. Just an opinion.
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Hescominsoon
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why would i vote for a candidate that has nothing that i am looking for? I want a strict constitutionalist..and jihadobama, mcinsane, and commuclinton aren't it. Ron Paul is. My party left it's roots a long time ago which is why it's now the republicrats and demopublicans. I have registered independent since that's the only "party" that truly holds my values. Read my sig about serving evil as to why i write in..the lesser of two evils is still evil..why would i serve evil when i serve the Lord? Don't vote your "party"..that's being a lemming which is what this world wants. Do your own research(not by watching tv or reading newspapers like the ny post or nytimes or many others). That's not research..that's just following the herd. Break out of the herd and do the one thing this world does not want you to do..think for yourself. It's work..trust me..but you'll be able to see much more clearly if you do it.
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Kidan
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If you're not going to vote for who you think is best, then why bother voting at all?
I am not voting for a party or a rote set of rules. I'm voting for a person--an ideal. I vote for those individuals who I believe will serve the government in the way that I would do so. My ballot has always been a mishmash of individuals who I thought would serve best in a given position. I have never just went down the line and marked all for one party or another. If my "party" refuses to produce candidates that I'm willing to vote for, then they do not deserve me vote.
Additionally, this thought that I'm voting for a party disturbs me highly. It stinks of Communism where someone merely gets to vote between two members of the party, chosen by the party.
Please remember, I see little difference between McCain and Obama. Sure one is slightly right of center, while the other is slightly left--but in the end, neither of them are Constitutionalists. They both actively seek things which are outside of the domain of the Constitution. Obama wants Nationalized Health Care. McCain ripped Free Speech to pieces with the McCain-Feingold Act.
Which ties into the final reason for why I'll write in Ron Paul: I must live with my vote. Every morning I have to wake up and look in my mirror--can I do that if I don't vote my concience? Can I face myself if I knowingly acted in a manner that I firmly believe is not in the best interest of my country?
I will vote for the individual who I believe is best suited for the job; I like shaving with a mirror too much not to.
Durruck
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While it may not have a huge impact on the outcome of the election, voting your feelings also shows that there is a significant group of the populace that is unhappy with both major candidates. Not that I'd like to see a free-for-all at election time, but I wouldn't be unhappy in the least if there were 1-3 more major parties to choose from.
Unfortunately, a lot of the smaller parties don't have the clout or serious candidates to choose from. Most of them are running with a single campaign goal....not a clear idea of how they stand on *all* the issues.
Unfortunately, a lot of the smaller parties don't have the clout or serious candidates to choose from. Most of them are running with a single campaign goal....not a clear idea of how they stand on *all* the issues.
Guys, guys. Think of it this way:
Who do you want more, McCain or Obama? I personally would want McCain over Obama, for my own reasons. I would've loved Ron Paul.
Obviously, Ron Paul isn't going to win, no matter how many people "write in".
Instead of calling the main nominees little names you thought up this morning to make yourself feel really clever and witty and noncomformist or something, and throwing away your vote and make your citizenship and opinion pointless, try to actually make an impact. I mean, no one is going to care if you "make a statement" by voting for someone who dropped out but represented what you stand for. You can actually participate and be civil and pick the opposite of who you don't want. (e.g. if you don't like Obama or McCain but just really would hate to have Obama as president, vote for McCain)
Honestly, I'm not old enough to vote, but I would lose more hours of sleep to voting for someone with no chance just to make a point than voting for someone who I don't entirely agree with.
Our "good guy" didn't make it. Get over it. Move on.
Who do you want more, McCain or Obama? I personally would want McCain over Obama, for my own reasons. I would've loved Ron Paul.
Obviously, Ron Paul isn't going to win, no matter how many people "write in".
Instead of calling the main nominees little names you thought up this morning to make yourself feel really clever and witty and noncomformist or something, and throwing away your vote and make your citizenship and opinion pointless, try to actually make an impact. I mean, no one is going to care if you "make a statement" by voting for someone who dropped out but represented what you stand for. You can actually participate and be civil and pick the opposite of who you don't want. (e.g. if you don't like Obama or McCain but just really would hate to have Obama as president, vote for McCain)
Honestly, I'm not old enough to vote, but I would lose more hours of sleep to voting for someone with no chance just to make a point than voting for someone who I don't entirely agree with.
Our "good guy" didn't make it. Get over it. Move on.
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Hescominsoon
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you really don't have a clue do you bonk? I don't want either because they are both either a closet jihadist or a warmongering globalist.(i'll let the boards figure out which is which..it's easy..<g>)read the constitution first of all. Next realize that choosing the lesser of two evils is serving evil. It's not about if ron paul wins..it's making a statement that says i reject this slate of unconstitutional candidates and as a voter i vote for one who carries my values. this is not a waste of my vote..it is the excersie of my American civic rights and my duty as a citizen. These "throwaway" votes are noticed and will either affect the current one party system's candidates or will encourage other, more constitutional candidates to run. The fact that you are willing to serve evil by buying into the lie of wasted votes by not voting the "nominees" shows you are already becoming ensared. The names i made up aren't to make myself feel witty or smart..i don't need to do that. If you think so bonk you don't know a thing about me. The next time you want to take a shot at me..take some time to figure out who and what you are talking about instead of talking out of your ears. The names i put onto them are a direct reflections of their personalities, known affiliations, and overall politics. Instead of attacking me and following the two party lemming herd over the cliff..take some time to do some REAL research and don't take the world's spoon feeding that so many people including Christians are taking.
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Obama is NOT a muslim, nor was he ever.
Snopes.
It is slanderous and wrong to label someone something they don't claim to be nor have any part of. As the snopes article says, his father was a muslim at one time, but then he became an atheist or agnostic. Obama never was. He went to a muslim school when he lived over in Africa because it was the only one there. He's claimed to be a Christian most of his life.
I do not support Obama nor his ideals, but I do not believe that spreading lies about a candidate is moral, and HCS, I doubt you do either.
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