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Are RD forums now moderated to the point that all my posts have to be approved before I see them on the boards, or have they simply been lost in cyberspace?

Some posts have taken days to show up, and others have never showed up.
 
Gods_Peon said:
Are RD forums now moderated to the point that all my posts have to be approved before I see them on the boards, or have they simply been lost in cyberspace?

Some posts have taken days to show up, and others have never showed up.
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I suspect that by the middle of next year, there won't be a RD forum at the rate and direction it is moving.

Cory
 
its still kinda vague for me as to what happened . I'm usually pretty active in the RD. I stopped posting for about 4 days, and when I went back to post was when RD was shut down. And now its fully moderated like hcs said. I haven't really pm'ed Gen for clarity on what is going on yet, so maybe I should...
 
I used to frequent RD all the time. Things have changed over the past year, and the same arguements rehashed with the same few athiests/deists. I just lost interest in it. The fact that once again people have managed to become uncivil in that forum is why I feel that way. It is very cyclical in nature. It just happens to be back at the point of slapping hands for those who don't respect others and follow the rules.

Cory
 
I think the people that were disrespectful and causing trouble have already left and probably won't be back.

They tend not to last very long. During my time here, I've seen my share of them, on both sides of the fence.

Unfortunately, I don't see RD going back to normal any time soon. I hope it does, because I don't see myself lasting very long on raptureready.com's forums. :)
 
To be bluntly honest, I have a hard time following the rules. The RD forum is meant for discussion, but so many conversations that take place there are watered-down so as to be "nice" to each other. Yes, we should always respect the non-believers who post there as well. But we shouldn't be so accepting of other religions and the lack of religion altogether.

I feel that RD breeds complacency when what we should be doing is teaching and informing others of God loves, not trying to defend against naysayers and at the end of the day saying, "Aww, it's okay. We're all still friends." Because we aren't still friends. Friends don't let friends go to hell.
 
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Well, I suppose, if you look on the optimistic side, the posters here aren't tortured when they "upset" the powers that be...not yet anyway.
 
Mr_Slice makes a valid and poignant criticism. I would take it even a bit further than you, though, good sir!

According to our good friend Nehemiah, through his actions during the time the wall was being rebuilt, when it came to his own kind, he had very little reverence for those explicitly and obviously working against them. He made a habit of brushing them off, really. Feel free to go read about that.

My opinion is...If you don't like free speech, don't moderate RD, and kindly don't give the arguement that it's not a free forum. Saying so undermines the very free will that God has given us and the liberty He has bestowed upon us in this country. Disagreement, argumentation, hate and love all have their times and places. You can't hide your head in the sand just because you don't like someone's attitude or lip.

Deal.
 
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To be bluntly honest, I have a hard time following the rules. The RD forum is meant for discussion, but so many conversations that take place there are watered-down so as to be "nice" to each other. Yes, we should always respect the non-believers who post there as well. But we shouldn't be so accepting of other religions and the lack of religion altogether.

I feel that RD breeds complacency when what we should be doing is teaching and informing others of God loves, not trying to defend against naysayers and at the end of the day saying, "Aww, it's okay. We're all still friends." Because we aren't still friends. Friends don't let friends go to hell.
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I don't ever recall there being a rule against healthy debate, only being respectable of others in the forum regardless of their religious affiliation. (or lack of) The problem from what I have seen repeatedly is people (and I would say that most of them are the Christians) stoop to the level of laying out personal attacks and completly disrespecting other people because of their different views on the subjects that are debated.

To be bluntly honest, I have a hard time following the rules....I feel that RD breeds complacency when what we should be doing is teaching and informing others of God loves...
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How can you teach and inform others of Gods love when you can't even carry on a civil debate without breaking the rules? We have 2 forums within RD for teaching, they are the Daily devotions and the Bible study forums. If you want to teach, start a study.

Cory
 
mmmmm. Where to even begin.

First, let me first say, I am tired of defending RD. I am tired of being refered to as the "powers that be". I am really tired of finding posts about RD in every other forum under the sun.

Up until about 8 months ago, RD was making some very good progress. People were debating in a healthy manner. People were not calling others names, conversations were being debated, not attacked, etc. I actually saw hope. Then something happened. I am not sure what it was, but things changed.

I find it interesting that when punishments for actions were handed down, people started complaining yet would not change the behaviours that caused them. Now, that RD is fully moderated (and it is stated why it is in a sticky thread), members try to post in other forums to work around the moderation. Ultimately though, the behaviours that caused RD to move to a fully moderated forum have not changed or perhaps even been considered.

I really think the following Bible verse applies here (to me as well as those in RD)

Luke 6:41 And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye?

I can promise that RD will not stay moderated indefinately. Up until this post, I was considering changing it back on Jan 1. Wipe the slate clean and pray that it will remain that way. Now, I am not sure. I think we could all use some productive time on our knees before the Lord before continuing with this unending conversation.

Before I leave, let me also add this for your consideration...

Philippians 2:14 Do all things without complaining and disputing.

Moderators.... if you would please lock this thread but do not delete it, I would appreciate it


Gen
 
Why must this thread be locked? Are we not discussing the value and purpose of another forum that is hosted by CGA? I see nothing wrong with that at all.

Thaddius, what I meant by having trouble following the rules was that I find it tough to sit and watch someone that is a non-believer tear down and attack every faith-based piece of information that we post. It makes me want to scream. The reality of God's love is that it is faith-based and cannot be explained by human science. So why do we waste endless hours arguing with someone who has no open heart to hear what we have to say?

If there are genuinely people in RD that are there to learn about the Lord then that's a different thing entirely. But what we have is a bunch of Christians who are having their faith challenged by non-believers who do not accept believing in a God by faith alone.

RD is great for Christians who want to discuss how a certain Bible verse should be read in context, or what God thinks about certain issues. But debating with non-Christians is usually not very healthy and is much more likely to cause a Christian to question himself rather than cause a non-believer to believe.
 
Here here.

We're here to win their hearts, not their minds... Something we all too often forget.

Locking this thread only further proves my point. With all due respect, don't start doing to general what is occuring in RD...This isn't RD.

While I'm not one to sit and debate things much anymore, I certainly believe anyone else ought to be able to do so, vehemently, without fear of reproach. What are we teaching our brothers and sisters --- that they can't defend faith when faith is being attacked?
 
NOTICE: This thread may be unlocked and moved to Religious Discussion after Genesis and I have a chance to put some plans into action. Locking this thread was not meant to stifle discussion, only postpone it while we work. We have read and considered the opinions expressed in this thread and will be taking them into consideration while making and implementing plans for the future of RD.
 
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