QQ MOAR

You take a class (not just ret pallies, non-shadow priests for example) that has had to fight tooth and nail and learn how to take mediocre talents and turn them into decent damage and you give them an equal footing after a year, and you'll find them doing more then average. Not because they are OPed, more because they are just working harder plain and simple.

And then people QQ. As one of those non-shadow priests, I've been through nerf after nerf that had more to do with lazy skills of other classes then my class actually being overpowered.
 
Gods_Peon said:
You take a class (not just ret pallies, non-shadow priests for example) that has had to fight tooth and nail and learn how to take mediocre talents and turn them into decent damage and you give them an equal footing after a year, and you'll find them doing more then average. Not because they are OPed, more because they are just working harder plain and simple.

And then people QQ. As one of those non-shadow priests, I've been through nerf after nerf that had more to do with lazy skills of other classes then my class actually being overpowered.
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well said.
 
I would say they are a little OP’d in PVP and likely will have either some burst damage or some of there healing ability in ret nerfed before long. I watched a friend playing and he was dealing considerably more damage than my mage even if I had a permanent arcane power on. They have a 7 second ranged stun on a 20 second cool down with talents and arena set. While he was doing that damage he was nearly full healing himself with the new divine storm and when he actually had to heal they have a talent that convents AP to Spell power and he had nearly +1k healing just from this talent and was healing nearly at the same rate as he would be specced into healing.
 
what i cant stand is the new buff to lay on hands... no mana is insane i mean atleast take some or something! i was fighting a 65 pally yesterday and i got him down low he bubbled and kept attacking me then i get him down again and he pops lay on hands... it was the longest fight i think i have ever had and if i didnt have pot i would of died for sure
 
galatian said:
what i cant stand is the new buff to lay on hands... no mana is insane i mean atleast take some or something! i was fighting a 65 pally yesterday and i got him down low he bubbled and kept attacking me then i get him down again and he pops lay on hands... it was the longest fight i think i have ever had and if i didnt have pot i would of died for sure
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there is a glyph for getting mana from lay on hands to add insult to injury.
 
Instead of coming in and making wholesale changes, I think it would be best to give the community sometime to come up with ingame solutions that may work. Obviously the old methods no longer work in defeating pallies and the community needs some time to figure out what might work.
 
Gods_Peon said:
Instead of coming in and making wholesale changes, I think it would be best to give the community sometime to come up with ingame solutions that may work. Obviously the old methods no longer work in defeating pallies and the community needs some time to figure out what might work.
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I think Galatians knows this already. The key to killing any pally is mana burn/kite. If he gets close enough to repentence/HoJ then its trouble otherwise, kit , slow , burn, dps , end of story.
 
Isn't lay on hands have like an hour cooldown without talents?

An hour cooldown spell is supposed to be some sort of impressive I'm thinking...
 
man natty, you are so far out of the loop. you gotta mana drain pallys, it's basics wow 101. you don't want them to cast di either otherwise its gg.
 
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