Nobody wants to talk about it, and just about everyone denies it yet I believe a majority have struggled with this issue. I Just started walking closely with God about a good year ago, and the longest I went without falling is about 2 months . Just did a month but stopped like a fool. I notice when I read and pray more its 100X easier to have self control. But after I slip I go binging and it sux man. Sometimes its almost scary becuse you feel like you'll never be clean forever. I know my dad has been involved with that type of stuff for years and I know in the bible it says that the sins of the father will be passed to the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me and I really dont want my kids to have to go through the things I went through. I been in this since I was 11. Man I really want a break and I can get it and have gotten it through christ but it seems like all it takes is one bad day and i run to it like a drug that will solve a problem ..
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rev. Jim
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The enemy wants people to feel condemned, guilty and ashamed of their sins, because as long as they feel thusly, they will hide, and not talk about things (as you noticed) and as long as people do not talk and share it is much harder to get help. It’s a very subtle and clever tactic.
Thanks for having the courage to ask the question.
The scripture which you have mentioned is found in Exodus 20:5 – now h good news is that exodus is in the Old Testament pre-Jesus.
We as believers today are under the New Testament (some Bible translations actually say “Covenant” instead of “Testament” which s more accurate.
Today under the new Covenant through Jesus, you have this wonderful bit of scripture:
“For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”
(Hebrews 8:12-13)
God no longer remembers our sins, they are all forgiven and under the blood of Jesus, the curse is removed and finished for all time, and it also includes the generational curses that you have mentioned.
Now into the second point: dealing with lust and porn. I actually preached a message on this roughly a month ago, but I will summarize it here:
It’s not about us, or our law keeping, it is all about Jesus. The moment we try to conquer sin using our own self-efforts or self-control then we have already lost. The key to be clean and stay clean is to simply continue to fill ourselves with Jesus.
You have already noted that it’s easy to accomplish victory when you are focused on Him, and so you have already found the secret. Hang onto that diamond of wisdom because it is a precious treasure that will keep you well in victory.
We are instructed in 1st Thessalonians 5:17 to “Pray without ceasing.”
This has confused some people because they don’t actually understand what “praying” is… “Praying” is actually communion and communication with God. Abiding and resting in Him, getting a bigger vision of Jesus; it doesn’t have to be loud, or use long words, and it doesn’t have to stand on a specific ceremony.
Now the outcome of this? The more we can fill ourselves with Jesus and get a bigger revelation of Him, our sins and desires for sin will fall away by themselves, naturally because our old nature dies… replaced by His divine nature.
This is a partial meaning of 2nd Corinthians 5:17:
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
We are all as believers, new creations in Christ. Yes the enemy will try to revive our old nature, but that old nature isn’t even us anymore, and the more we can realize that we are now together with Christ, the more we win.
Thanks for having the courage to ask the question.
The scripture which you have mentioned is found in Exodus 20:5 – now h good news is that exodus is in the Old Testament pre-Jesus.
We as believers today are under the New Testament (some Bible translations actually say “Covenant” instead of “Testament” which s more accurate.
Today under the new Covenant through Jesus, you have this wonderful bit of scripture:
“For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”
(Hebrews 8:12-13)
God no longer remembers our sins, they are all forgiven and under the blood of Jesus, the curse is removed and finished for all time, and it also includes the generational curses that you have mentioned.
Now into the second point: dealing with lust and porn. I actually preached a message on this roughly a month ago, but I will summarize it here:
It’s not about us, or our law keeping, it is all about Jesus. The moment we try to conquer sin using our own self-efforts or self-control then we have already lost. The key to be clean and stay clean is to simply continue to fill ourselves with Jesus.
You have already noted that it’s easy to accomplish victory when you are focused on Him, and so you have already found the secret. Hang onto that diamond of wisdom because it is a precious treasure that will keep you well in victory.
We are instructed in 1st Thessalonians 5:17 to “Pray without ceasing.”
This has confused some people because they don’t actually understand what “praying” is… “Praying” is actually communion and communication with God. Abiding and resting in Him, getting a bigger vision of Jesus; it doesn’t have to be loud, or use long words, and it doesn’t have to stand on a specific ceremony.
Now the outcome of this? The more we can fill ourselves with Jesus and get a bigger revelation of Him, our sins and desires for sin will fall away by themselves, naturally because our old nature dies… replaced by His divine nature.
This is a partial meaning of 2nd Corinthians 5:17:
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
We are all as believers, new creations in Christ. Yes the enemy will try to revive our old nature, but that old nature isn’t even us anymore, and the more we can realize that we are now together with Christ, the more we win.
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that is great rev and i agree. its just my consistency goes bad sometimes. ill be enjoying life and everything and praying and reading and feel like I can go the rest of my life without doing something like that again. then, one pop quiz, another professor doing me wrong, or i feel like they did and something else makes my day spiral away . i do pray trust and believe when things are going good, but when things go bad I start getting impatient and thats where it all begins and here I am again. I just dont want to be in this @ 25 years old and i know nobody put a gun to me and i also dont want to be feeling sorry for myself either. hopefully ill get there one day, starting now
Cool_Hand_Luke
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this needs to be moved to a more appropriate board.
rev. Jim
New Member
Remember Colossians 2:11; our power to put off sins is in Christ not in our own self effort. Never think that it's up to you to try harder or to do by yourself.
It's like in those animated cartoons, where they have a giant red button and a big bold sign that says "Don't push the red button!", and always someone pushes it.
Just fill yourself completely with Christ and it is He Himself who will purge the desire for sin.
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Stc95
Tribe of Judah Guild Wars Chapter Leader
I agree.
Moderator's Note: Moved to the What Does God Say About... Forum. Moderator's there can move again if needed.
Feel free to continue discussion.
These last few months I've been diving into everything I do with my whole heart, all 100% of me, giving my all. Which is good, because my friends, family, coworkers, studies, and especially God, have been getting my whole being. I've noticed that with mentality, that giving my all, especially to God, has severely dampened my hangups and failures, building up those gifts and qualities God has given. It's been a total trip.
I'm not saying it's a miracle fix or anything, but it's what has been working for me. Don't be discouraged by the enemy or the "failures" you may experience. God is so much bigger than anything that hangs you up. Keep running into His arms.
TheMonkey
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