Please give me $1,000

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Dark Virtue

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I found an easy way to figure out who the REAL true Christians are!

TRUE Christians will give me $1,000 because I asked for it. And nicely I might add!

So all those True Christians out there, please give me $1,000. Cash. US Currency. Small bills preferably.

WHY should you do this? Why because Jesus said so of course!

Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
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Looks like you are also supposed to love me, bless me and do good to me. Hmm, I guess I've already weeded out a couple of self-professing True Christians. :cool:

BTW, I will also accept PayPal.
 
I imagine a good number of Christians would. With one exception:

Sure, any Christian would know to give money when the another needs it, thus showing proper Christian love. My very presence here is evidence of that (which I'll be glad to explain if you would wish.) But, is it Christ-like love to give money to a drunkard so he can buy more drink? Or is it better to try to talk him out of the degenerative lifestyle, refraining from giving any money even when asked? (This is just an example, I'm not implying anything personal.)

For example, when a beggar comes to our door and asks for money for food, my father gives the beggar food. He does not give them money, because the money a Christian may give "in love" can be used to "not-so-lovely" purposes.

In essence, it once again comes down to motive. What would you do with the money the Christians give you? If Christians could trust that the money will be used for necessary purpose then I'm sure a good number of them will gladly give this money.

Refusing to spoil a child is love from a parent, as another example. If the child got everything he wanted, he would become spoiled. (Again, this is just an example.)
 
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Looks like you are also supposed to love me, bless me and do good to me. Hmm, I guess I've already weeded out a couple of self-professing True Christians.
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Hah, you crack me up DV. Silver and Gold I have none. Literally, I"m a broke college student. I have eternal life that I can lead you to. What do you want the money for?
 
WOW!!! DV

I can't believe you put this in a post...

Matthew 5:44 (KJV)
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and with all sincerity that is available to me, I do here by bless you. May God grant you with much happiness, and funds to fulfill the needs that you have.

AND

As my Master has perscribed, I will add you to my daily prayer list so that the above blessing will not be in vain.

Bless you DV, even if you are my enemy...
Luke 11:23 (MsgB)
"This is war, and there is no neutral ground. If you're not on my side, you're the enemy; if you're not helping, you're making things worse.
I will pray for you, HOWEVER, I already know that you are not my enemy at all...
Ephes. 6:12 (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (emphasis added)

So whether you stand with me or against me, I will still ask my Lord to bless you.

Oh and BTW, the Master said, wise as serpents, gentle as doves (Matt. 10:16). Using this ploy was serpenty, we see through that.

LOVE YA!!!
:D
 
You want unmarked, non-sequential bills, right? :p

If only I had enough money to give $1000 dollars to everybody who asked. Or to ANYBODY who asked, for that matter...
 
HHHMMMM This post is about as equivaliant as the apostle Pauls thorn in the flesh issue, that is of course if you get my drift DV.Lol WooWoot Woot
 
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I'm going to start an offshore account. I'll let you know when it opens :)

I appreciate that the majority of you accepted the post as it was intended, with a tongue in cheek flair.

However, there is some seriousness to the question. The verses I posted above, is this an easy position for you to reach? Do you really give all when asked? Were these verses literal or allergorical?

On a similar vein, are these verses:

Luke 14:33
In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys.

How do these verses factor into modern day Christians?
 
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
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Heh. This truly applies to DV's posting this :p
 
However, there is some seriousness to the question. The verses I posted above, is this an easy position for you to reach? Do you really give all when asked?
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I think best way to answer this is with an experience in my life:

Heading to my car after a very late meeting one evening (Must've been 8 or 8:30), I was approached by a ragged old man pushing a grocery cart filled with what I would consider to be junk. He asked if I had some spare change. Now, I hadn't eaten since lunch and I was hungry. I was hoping to use the last of my money to pickup some McDonalds on the way home. All I had was a $5 bill. Some part of me really wanted to say, I have no spare change, and it would be technically correct statement. None the less, I gave him my last $5. So at that moment in time, I gave him everything I had. It wasn't a thousand dollars, it was my own want and needs (need food, me hungry) that I gave up, even if it was only for an hour. But I did it without thinking about reward for me or for my own needs and wants.

Also, I do have people in my life that ask me for money, a couple hundred dollars for rent or groceries or for gas for the truck to get back home. (A friend of mine lives in a different provice, sometimes he comes to visit and blows more money then he expected, things are much more expensive in Calgary then they are in his little farming community town). I never stop to consider what I'm gaining or loosing in the transaction.

If a complete stranger came up asking for a couple hundred or a thousand dollars to tide them over, I would genuinely be hesitant. I don't think I would actually have a problem taking them to the grocery store and gettting them a weeks worth of food. I would look more practicle ways to help if the need is genuine.
 
I do not believe that those versus imply that Christians should take a vow of poverty. A vow of poverty is something people are called to do. Not everybody is called to do it.

When Jesus says, unless you give it all up, you can't be my disciple, I see it as meaning giving up your old life, your old ways, the old way of doing things. At least for me, it didn't involve giving up all wealth. Some people it probably does because they are so connected to their wealth. I grew up not very wealthy and when in the early years of marriage, many of our meals was popcorn. Not that nifty microwave popcorn or prepackaged stuff either. We lived in the bulk isle. If it wasn't 5 cents per 100gram, it was to fancy for us, if you know what I mean. I already had nothing of any material worth to me. We had received a nice toaster for a wedding gift, couldn't afford the bread to make toast with it, "Yo Jesus, I ain't got no problem with selling this here darn toaster, it ain't got no value to me."

hmm.. I think that a key in understanding those versus. I have a saying that comes to mind, Judge your successes by what you had to give up to attain it. Christs way of life is not without sacrifice, in order to be his disciple, or to accept his way of life, you have to give up your old ways.
 
Gods_Peon said:
I do not believe that those versus imply that Christians should take a vow of poverty. A vow of poverty is something people are called to do. Not everybody is called to do it.
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Thanks for that.

When Jesus says, unless you give it all up, you can't be my disciple, I see it as meaning giving up your old life, your old ways, the old way of doing things. At least for me, it didn't involve giving up all wealth. Some people it probably does because they are so connected to their wealth. I grew up not very wealthy and when in the early years of marriage, many of our meals was popcorn. Not that nifty microwave popcorn or prepackaged stuff either. We lived in the bulk isle. If it wasn't 5 cents per 100gram, it was to fancy for us, if you know what I mean. I already had nothing of any material worth to me. We had received a nice toaster for a wedding gift, couldn't afford the bread to make toast with it, "Yo Jesus, I ain't got no problem with selling this here darn toaster, it ain't got no value to me."
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Are you saying this verse is open to interpretation? That it can fit anyone's given position?

hmm.. I think that a key in understanding those versus. I have a saying that comes to mind, Judge your successes by what you had to give up to attain it. Christs way of life is not without sacrifice, in order to be his disciple, or to accept his way of life, you have to give up your old ways.
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Again, it sounds like you are leaving the door open to interpretation. Would one be wrong in interpreting it to mean giving up all of one's material possessions?
 
Ahhh, but God also tells us to be good sterwards, to leave something for our children, not to be used of evil, etc.

You also set the price. You will find many more worshipers of money with that kind of money than you are able to find Christians with that kind of money.

I also have to use what my Father gives me wisely. We give to those in need as a whitness to God. Not to whitness their abuse of us for no good reason. Humility, meekness, love, etc. are tools of the Christian. How would I whitness in anyway to you to give you $1000?
 
@ DarkVirtue

Are you saying this verse is open to interpretation? That it can fit anyone's given position?
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Well, I think what Gods_Peon was getting at (correct me if I'm wrong Gods_Peon) is that it's more situational.

Using his (Gods_Peon's) story, at that moment, all he had (so to speak) was 5 dollars. He had the choice of whether to give it to the old man, or use it for himself. Giving it to the old man was the so-called "give to the poor" and "giving up all your possesions" (obviously worded differently in the Bible) that you mentioned.

Now, in a different situation, let's take an example or two from the Bible. Matthew 4:18 - "The Calling of the First Disciples" (NIV version) So, to sum it up, it's about Jesus' calling of his first disciples (pretty self-explanatory if I do say so my self ^^). Anyways, it mentions that Peter and Andrew were both fishermen, and that they "...left their nets and followed [Jesus]."_Matthew 4:20. Well, for Peter and Andrew to leave their nets, meant that they left their way of making a living - catch food to eat and sell. In that situation, that was all of their possesions.

Also, further in that story, Jesus meets two other brothers, James and John. It says in the Bible that they "...were in a boat with their father Zebedee, preparing their nets."_Matthew 4:21. When Jesus "...called them...they left the boat and their father and followed him."_Matthew 4:22. For them, their all was their father and fishing.

That seems a little unfair doesn't it? James and John seems to have left behind more - fishing in addition to their father - yet Jesus still took them in as disciples. I think it's because Jesus saw that both brothers sincerely left everything they held dear at that moment and followed him.

Both brothers sacrificed something at that instant, something that they thought was special, as did Gods_Peon by giving away his 5 dollars and neglecting his hunger (and hunger isn't something easily overcome, I know from experience XD).

All in all, just to re-emphasize, what I believe the answer to your question is that it's more situational than left to be debated. It's a concious decision at that exact moment, and a constant decision as well.

Hopefully that was helpful, if any clarity is needed, feel free to ask for it.

~Seeker
 
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