rizz
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hehe
nubbly wubbly
nubbly wubbly
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Demon Hunter
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rizz, your gunna give up your name for a stuffed owl?
TastyWheat
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James Tiberius Kirk
or perhaps Jean Luc Picard
or perhaps Jean Luc Picard
Kidan
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it's a stuff doll, if it naming it allows him to witness about Christ, who cares what franchise it came from
as for the "Harry Potter is evil" that is nonsense. While it does paint witchcraft in a 'good' light, the thought that the psuedo-latin nonsense that they are spouting are actual spells is utter nonsense. What is more nonsense is that the names of various characters are names of demons (yes i've heard this arguement against the Harry Potter franchise). Believe me folks, demon names are usually Hebrew names, just like angelic names are Hebrew names.
Personally I think the franchise is a good thing, because it gets kids to read. The more you read the more you have the chance to learn. The more you read, the better you can understand what you are reading. As in all other forms of entertainment, it should be filtered through parents first, having read the entire series I see no reason why they could not be read.
as for the "Harry Potter is evil" that is nonsense. While it does paint witchcraft in a 'good' light, the thought that the psuedo-latin nonsense that they are spouting are actual spells is utter nonsense. What is more nonsense is that the names of various characters are names of demons (yes i've heard this arguement against the Harry Potter franchise). Believe me folks, demon names are usually Hebrew names, just like angelic names are Hebrew names.
Personally I think the franchise is a good thing, because it gets kids to read. The more you read the more you have the chance to learn. The more you read, the better you can understand what you are reading. As in all other forms of entertainment, it should be filtered through parents first, having read the entire series I see no reason why they could not be read.
amorphus88
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mind you, Harry Potter also opens up young kids to the pagan world. if a kid just came off of Harry Potter, and some Wiccan came up to them and asked them if they wanted to join their coven, the kid woudl gladly accept. and that is something I cannot accept. you make your own decisions. of course, if a responsible person reads it, or a responsible person reads it with a young child and gives them a little talk about God after finishing it, then I'm all for it. it's a decent series, after all.
have you noticed, though, that everything that makes Harry "good" is because someone else did something? not actually him that does it for the most part, anyways.
if you ever run out of options for stuffed animal names, call them this:
<species>-ie
like in this case,
Owlie
although people might start to think that theres a relation to you yelling that every time you die and your Owl's name... and you'd get weird looks... and people would go deaf...
have you noticed, though, that everything that makes Harry "good" is because someone else did something? not actually him that does it for the most part, anyways.
if you ever run out of options for stuffed animal names, call them this:
<species>-ie
like in this case,
Owlie
although people might start to think that theres a relation to you yelling that every time you die and your Owl's name... and you'd get weird looks... and people would go deaf...
Right it's not that it's intrinsicly evil(Harry Potter), it's that little kids who don't know better believe it's real and desire to be Harry and "innocently" pretend their doing magic. I hear the argument what makes you against this when you like Lord of the Rings? My answer is that TLOR is not aimed at young children who do not completly see the difference between fantasy and reality. I know of no one that walks out of the theatre and truly thinks what they just saw could be real and wanting to be Frodo. HP on the other hand is intended for those who are in a period where their belief system, morals, and understanding of reality are still forming and easily mallable. I do agree that it's good for kids to read but encouraging them to read something that has the ability to do great harm if they don't have proper grounding is something I can't encourage when we should be abstaining from the mere apperance of evil. Just my opinion on the HP thing.
Rizz you silly british folk "nubbly wubbly" is my phrase and is quite trademarked. ;-)
-Trevor
-amusedtoe
Rizz you silly british folk "nubbly wubbly" is my phrase and is quite trademarked. ;-)
-Trevor
-amusedtoe
J.K. Rowling has never intended for her novels to be read by children, they are the ones that enjoy the most though, blame the adults for reading too much into stuff and forgetting how to just read and get lost in a good fantasy, when children lose their imagination nothing good can happen b/c we lose vision for the future
rizz
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Having been to the cinema and seen lotr i would say that the majority of people there were young children....
I looked up some stuff on JK Rowling yesterday. Theres a lot of random fake stories flying about. Very interesting. Still i wouldnt let my kids (if i had them) watch harry potter. I might let them read the books.
I wouldnt let them watch lotr until they were old enough not to be scared silly by it either. But kids nowdays.. they know more than i do about bad stuff....lol
I looked up some stuff on JK Rowling yesterday. Theres a lot of random fake stories flying about. Very interesting. Still i wouldnt let my kids (if i had them) watch harry potter. I might let them read the books.
I wouldnt let them watch lotr until they were old enough not to be scared silly by it either. But kids nowdays.. they know more than i do about bad stuff....lol
Demon Hunter
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your starting to sound like my daddy[b said:
lol
rizz
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"Its not the age its the mileage" - Copyright ToJ | Rizz 1999
amorphus88
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eh? I was trying to come up with a mega-slam for that, but I couldn't. eh... the only thing I can come up with is a VERY weak inference... and I don't think it even falls on the scale...
bah.
the difference between HP and LotR is the fundamental reasons behind their actions - while HP is primarily the quest for personal power, prestige, money, and fame, LotR is the quest for the good of all beings in Middle Earth, even if the main character ends up dying (which we have premonitions of in the second book. Frodo decides resiliently to carry on his duties, though.)
why I like LotR? the writing quality is better, the words are much more majestic and grand, and the end scene filled me with that feeling you might get in a movie where the main character just "died", but amidst resounding orchestral fanfare and pomp and ceremony, his hand breaks through the rubble, and he climbs out at great pain, and yells "I LIIIIIIIVE!" .... uh...
but not to stray off topic - HP, also, is centered on the world of Harry and his two to four friends, depending on the situation he's in. Usually two. This, although it may not seem apparent, is a focus on your own life, me, ME, M E.
LotR, on the other hand, regularly interchanges between three parties, or more, giving you the scope of the entire war for Middle Eart, and how a vast sample of demographics are affected, and their reactions. now, LotR is more concerned with the rulers and their armies, but that's actually who's fighting the war.
eh, running out of energy. me and my lazyness.
bah.
the difference between HP and LotR is the fundamental reasons behind their actions - while HP is primarily the quest for personal power, prestige, money, and fame, LotR is the quest for the good of all beings in Middle Earth, even if the main character ends up dying (which we have premonitions of in the second book. Frodo decides resiliently to carry on his duties, though.)
why I like LotR? the writing quality is better, the words are much more majestic and grand, and the end scene filled me with that feeling you might get in a movie where the main character just "died", but amidst resounding orchestral fanfare and pomp and ceremony, his hand breaks through the rubble, and he climbs out at great pain, and yells "I LIIIIIIIVE!" .... uh...
but not to stray off topic - HP, also, is centered on the world of Harry and his two to four friends, depending on the situation he's in. Usually two. This, although it may not seem apparent, is a focus on your own life, me, ME, M E.
LotR, on the other hand, regularly interchanges between three parties, or more, giving you the scope of the entire war for Middle Eart, and how a vast sample of demographics are affected, and their reactions. now, LotR is more concerned with the rulers and their armies, but that's actually who's fighting the war.
eh, running out of energy. me and my lazyness.
Kidan
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LOTR is a 'history' of the war of Middle Earth.
But look at it's forerunner The Hobbit, it's a story mainly about Bilbo and his aquisition of money.
Whereas in Harry Potter, nowhere do I remember there being a "quest for personal power, prestige, money, and fame" HP is alrady rich, and famous, and is learning the craft he's chosen (while it's not a field I'd go into, he has chosen it and is learning).
My point is, the lessons in HP and LotR are fundamentally the same. Good guy fights evil thing. Clear lines are drawn where the evil guy is trying to control everything, and the good guy is trying to stop him.
Now i've done it, I've ruined the plot lines for both series for everybody
But look at it's forerunner The Hobbit, it's a story mainly about Bilbo and his aquisition of money.
Whereas in Harry Potter, nowhere do I remember there being a "quest for personal power, prestige, money, and fame" HP is alrady rich, and famous, and is learning the craft he's chosen (while it's not a field I'd go into, he has chosen it and is learning).
My point is, the lessons in HP and LotR are fundamentally the same. Good guy fights evil thing. Clear lines are drawn where the evil guy is trying to control everything, and the good guy is trying to stop him.
Now i've done it, I've ruined the plot lines for both series for everybody
Demon Hunter
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its smells like geek in here..
TastyWheat
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I'm not a geek...
amorphus88
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no, of course the overall premise is "good vs. evil", but you have to look past the cosmetics.
underneath it all, is there a point to what Harry is doing, just like what you did while you were in school? he's competing for power with his peers, and tries to best as many people as he can.
bah, I can't explain it in mere words. just think back to your elementary school days. wouldn't that be a bad thing to tell kids to do? I mean, they do it, but the point is LotR teaches more along the lines of selflessness and personal sacrifice, while Harry Potter stresses to do what it takes to come out on top.
underneath it all, is there a point to what Harry is doing, just like what you did while you were in school? he's competing for power with his peers, and tries to best as many people as he can.
bah, I can't explain it in mere words. just think back to your elementary school days. wouldn't that be a bad thing to tell kids to do? I mean, they do it, but the point is LotR teaches more along the lines of selflessness and personal sacrifice, while Harry Potter stresses to do what it takes to come out on top.