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Gandhi
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Bad propoganda.
Don't mess with my man Kerry. He's going to be the new president of The U.S.A.
Who would u rather have control the button to shoot our nkes Kerry or Bush. Bush will think its the new Doom 3 game and sit down and try to play.
Its my funny example. But we all know its true.
Don't mess with my man Kerry. He's going to be the new president of The U.S.A.
Who would u rather have control the button to shoot our nkes Kerry or Bush. Bush will think its the new Doom 3 game and sit down and try to play.
Its my funny example. But we all know its true.
Plankeye
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So Mech, you would vote for someone who doesn't put God first in his life over Bush. Because Bush is a God fearing man, I have more faith in his decisions then I ever would Kerry. God's will has never been one to have us wipe each other out, meaning Bush would be the last person I would see launching nukes.
Kidan
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I would rather have Bush with his finger over our nukes.
My question is, who would you rather have running the concept of our taxes?
Someone who's voted for tax increases about 30 times, or the first president since Reagan to lower them?
My question is, who would you rather have running the concept of our taxes?
Someone who's voted for tax increases about 30 times, or the first president since Reagan to lower them?
Thaddius
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Mech,
Prove to me its bad propoganda, not just your opinion. Show me where this is not factual information on John Kerry. The more that comes out about him, the more truth we see in what he is, and who he really is. Bush came clean with his service records in the Air National Guard, where are Kerrys on his 4 month service in Vietnam? Why did he say he spent a Christmas in Cambodia, when it was simply not true? Why did he claim to threw his medals over the fence when in reality he never did? meh, read the information before you go blasting it as "bad propoganda".
Cory
Prove to me its bad propoganda, not just your opinion. Show me where this is not factual information on John Kerry. The more that comes out about him, the more truth we see in what he is, and who he really is. Bush came clean with his service records in the Air National Guard, where are Kerrys on his 4 month service in Vietnam? Why did he say he spent a Christmas in Cambodia, when it was simply not true? Why did he claim to threw his medals over the fence when in reality he never did? meh, read the information before you go blasting it as "bad propoganda".
Cory
not to bad of a site only i got bored after a few min since i cant vote >_<
Gandhi
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First he never said he threw his medals over the fence. He said he threw some medals. If he had his medals he would of thrown them.
As for Bush putting God first, thats the problem. Should god have anything to do with politics? NO
And I'm not really christian so I don't mind Kerry not. I see bush pushing that button more than I see Kerry doing it. I don't think bush see's a difference between muslums and terrorist. His next action would be investing money in building churches all over muslum countries. And just because he says he believes in god doesn't mean he's a good person.
And whats wrong with tax increases, somethimes they have to be done. And u probobly need a tax increase after all the money he spent looking for weapons of mass destruction. Anyone seen them yet.
Oh yeah I'm canadian, so really with kerry wanting to stop jobs going out of USA, it isn't really good for me since I like meeting stars walking around robson street. But I think he can do a better job than Kerry.
Plus I think his wife is pretty cool. Got to love that lady.
As for Bush putting God first, thats the problem. Should god have anything to do with politics? NO
And I'm not really christian so I don't mind Kerry not. I see bush pushing that button more than I see Kerry doing it. I don't think bush see's a difference between muslums and terrorist. His next action would be investing money in building churches all over muslum countries. And just because he says he believes in god doesn't mean he's a good person.
And whats wrong with tax increases, somethimes they have to be done. And u probobly need a tax increase after all the money he spent looking for weapons of mass destruction. Anyone seen them yet.
Oh yeah I'm canadian, so really with kerry wanting to stop jobs going out of USA, it isn't really good for me since I like meeting stars walking around robson street. But I think he can do a better job than Kerry.
Plus I think his wife is pretty cool. Got to love that lady.
TheJfreak
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yea we are in matter of fact we are but lets put this somewhere else before trouble erupts
Plankeye
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Thank you for commenting on something you know nothing about nor can effect the outcome of as you are not an American.
"Should God [big G emphasis mine] have anything to do with politcs?" Yes. God should have to do with everything. We are screwed up. We are born sinners. If that isn't blatently obivious, just look at our history. Without Him guiding our decisions, we have proven time and time again that we will screw it up.
"I don't think bush see's a difference between muslums and terrorist." That is a reckless and ignorant statement. I guess I forgot when the coalition started randomly murdering muslims just because of who they were. It just amazes me the crap people come up with. Instead of making up blatant lies, try defending your believes with more than false accusations and other crap the liberal media spoons feeds to you.
"And whats wrong with tax increases, somethimes they have to be done. And u probobly need a tax increase after all the money he spent looking for weapons of mass destruction. Anyone seen them yet." I remember right where I was on September 11th. I watched in horror in my companies break room when those two towers came down. The lives that were lost were lost because we had stood on the side lines to long and let evil men like Osama and Saddam continue down maligned path of destruction and death. So get a clue if you think this is solely about weapons of mass destruction, or whatever other crap you continue to get from the troth. Raising taxes are necassary? Only if you want to hurt those at its lowest levels. The ones where paying an extra couple of hundred dollars a year means a lot because that is money to pay down debts, fix a roof, make a nice Christmas for the family. You can't through money at every problem.
"Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?" Yes, and in some cases we are better off than we were 8 years ago. For the first time in several years, my job search listing actually requires me to scroll a couple of pages to get through all the available jobs. Friends and family that had lost their jobs are getting new ones. I just have to look around my neighborhood that has only been around two years to see tons of first time home owners. People who would have never taken the risk of $100-200K in debt but with the interest rates so low, it would be insane not to do it. Don't forget, it is easy to point out the bad, feel sorry about it and let it dwell up inside, but I see so much more good in life right that it easily overshadows the nay sayers and those that can find no major fault in Bush that they have to make stuff up just to justify their complaints.
"Should God [big G emphasis mine] have anything to do with politcs?" Yes. God should have to do with everything. We are screwed up. We are born sinners. If that isn't blatently obivious, just look at our history. Without Him guiding our decisions, we have proven time and time again that we will screw it up.
"I don't think bush see's a difference between muslums and terrorist." That is a reckless and ignorant statement. I guess I forgot when the coalition started randomly murdering muslims just because of who they were. It just amazes me the crap people come up with. Instead of making up blatant lies, try defending your believes with more than false accusations and other crap the liberal media spoons feeds to you.
"And whats wrong with tax increases, somethimes they have to be done. And u probobly need a tax increase after all the money he spent looking for weapons of mass destruction. Anyone seen them yet." I remember right where I was on September 11th. I watched in horror in my companies break room when those two towers came down. The lives that were lost were lost because we had stood on the side lines to long and let evil men like Osama and Saddam continue down maligned path of destruction and death. So get a clue if you think this is solely about weapons of mass destruction, or whatever other crap you continue to get from the troth. Raising taxes are necassary? Only if you want to hurt those at its lowest levels. The ones where paying an extra couple of hundred dollars a year means a lot because that is money to pay down debts, fix a roof, make a nice Christmas for the family. You can't through money at every problem.
"Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?" Yes, and in some cases we are better off than we were 8 years ago. For the first time in several years, my job search listing actually requires me to scroll a couple of pages to get through all the available jobs. Friends and family that had lost their jobs are getting new ones. I just have to look around my neighborhood that has only been around two years to see tons of first time home owners. People who would have never taken the risk of $100-200K in debt but with the interest rates so low, it would be insane not to do it. Don't forget, it is easy to point out the bad, feel sorry about it and let it dwell up inside, but I see so much more good in life right that it easily overshadows the nay sayers and those that can find no major fault in Bush that they have to make stuff up just to justify their complaints.
Gandhi
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Sadamm had nothing to do with sep. 11.
And osama was trained by americans, when he was fighting against the soviets.
Why did sep. 11 happen? Bad forign policies. Lets supply weapons to israel that we don't supply to any other country. America picked a side in a war they had nothing to do with. Now we have to live with it.
I actually know a little more than u think about politics.
I still think god has no place in politics, but thats my opinion.
I think with or without him we'd screw up. And he was part of the problem. There was the crusades, and the killing of pagan priests, the destruction of pagan temples, and u have the new jihad. The use of gods is always used in things that if there was a god he wouldn't be pleased with. Alot of things have been done through out history in the name of christianity.
Just because Bush thinks hes a christian doesn't mean he's a great person.
But u can vote how u want, I hope in the end bush doesn't win. Because I care for u yanks. But whats the deal with the soft wood lumber.
And osama was trained by americans, when he was fighting against the soviets.
Why did sep. 11 happen? Bad forign policies. Lets supply weapons to israel that we don't supply to any other country. America picked a side in a war they had nothing to do with. Now we have to live with it.
I actually know a little more than u think about politics.
I still think god has no place in politics, but thats my opinion.
[b said:
I think with or without him we'd screw up. And he was part of the problem. There was the crusades, and the killing of pagan priests, the destruction of pagan temples, and u have the new jihad. The use of gods is always used in things that if there was a god he wouldn't be pleased with. Alot of things have been done through out history in the name of christianity.
Just because Bush thinks hes a christian doesn't mean he's a great person.
But u can vote how u want, I hope in the end bush doesn't win. Because I care for u yanks. But whats the deal with the soft wood lumber.
ToJ | Dead_Aim
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Good point plankeye, as for you mech
-Saddamm has a lot to do with Sept 11th, he "did" (until being takin out) fund Al-Quiada (spell)
-As far as Sept 11th, yes it had to do with some of the foriegn policies, mostly set in place by Clinton (another left wing liberal). We had an underfunded army, and intelligence (we were busy giving money away to other countries and selling our nuclear weapons to China). Overall the biggest problem was Bin Laden. Do you think he put this together in 9months? No he didn't. It took years of planning, now tell me who was in charge then? Clinton. A man who was already on high risk for our country was planning yet another bombing (bc we all know it already happend once and do I even have to point out that it was during the Clinton administration). But the thing that makes me very angry and knowing that this could have been prevented is the fact that Clinton HAD Bin Laden. They caught him on a private flight and had F-16's around the plane waiting for his command to fire, yet he didn't (he was scared to start conflict). Forgive me for saything this guys but it goes to show you that he had no balls what so ever. This all could have been prevented if we could have reacted then instead of having to do so now.
-Also, we supplied weapons to Israel, our ally in the middle east because they are fighting an ongoing war with Palistine. I dunno about you but I would supply them with weapons in the war and I feel that if any of our other allies needed weapons we'd help them out to, but seeing as they weren't fighting any wars why would that be neccessary?
-Saddamm has a lot to do with Sept 11th, he "did" (until being takin out) fund Al-Quiada (spell)
-As far as Sept 11th, yes it had to do with some of the foriegn policies, mostly set in place by Clinton (another left wing liberal). We had an underfunded army, and intelligence (we were busy giving money away to other countries and selling our nuclear weapons to China). Overall the biggest problem was Bin Laden. Do you think he put this together in 9months? No he didn't. It took years of planning, now tell me who was in charge then? Clinton. A man who was already on high risk for our country was planning yet another bombing (bc we all know it already happend once and do I even have to point out that it was during the Clinton administration). But the thing that makes me very angry and knowing that this could have been prevented is the fact that Clinton HAD Bin Laden. They caught him on a private flight and had F-16's around the plane waiting for his command to fire, yet he didn't (he was scared to start conflict). Forgive me for saything this guys but it goes to show you that he had no balls what so ever. This all could have been prevented if we could have reacted then instead of having to do so now.
-Also, we supplied weapons to Israel, our ally in the middle east because they are fighting an ongoing war with Palistine. I dunno about you but I would supply them with weapons in the war and I feel that if any of our other allies needed weapons we'd help them out to, but seeing as they weren't fighting any wars why would that be neccessary?
TheJfreak
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NO
Gandhi
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Didn't bush admit that Sadamm had nothing to do with al quida what so ever. I don't think killing bin laden would of stoped sep. 11th. His second in command was incharge of setting up the stuff. Can't remember the name but it was long. But bin laden was just the bank.
And the reason the CIA never caught bin laden was because noone would rat on the guy. I heard this story on the news about this guy that was working for the CIA giving information and stuff. Well Bin laden found out and one day he came home and found his sons and wife hanging from the cealing. He was blown up later. But after that no one went against him.
But I know it took a long time to plan, but I never said it was all bush's fault, it was americas forign policy on a whole.
But some of the weapons being supplied to Israel the U.S doesn't supply to any other allies. I heard that on CNN. The U.S. supplies arms to the Palistineans too, they just can't buy the same weapons as the Israilies. And personally I don't think Israel was fully in the right. They created alot of unhappy refugees, and now they have to deal with it. I don't agree with any of the violences, both sides are probobly equally wrong. But its not for us to decide or step in to. We should of left it for them to settle. And they are fighting a war, a war partly of their own making. Maybe also partly the british fault for creating a jewish state, and also for allowing the amount of immigrants to settle in Palistine even though it was over the immigration limit. But I guess they felt sorry for what the Jews in europe went through because of WW2.
Would Bush off taken the plane with bin laden in it if he was in the same position Clinton was in, pre- sep. 11. Probobly not, because he's a god fearing man and wouldn't want to start conflict.
And the reason the CIA never caught bin laden was because noone would rat on the guy. I heard this story on the news about this guy that was working for the CIA giving information and stuff. Well Bin laden found out and one day he came home and found his sons and wife hanging from the cealing. He was blown up later. But after that no one went against him.
But I know it took a long time to plan, but I never said it was all bush's fault, it was americas forign policy on a whole.
But some of the weapons being supplied to Israel the U.S doesn't supply to any other allies. I heard that on CNN. The U.S. supplies arms to the Palistineans too, they just can't buy the same weapons as the Israilies. And personally I don't think Israel was fully in the right. They created alot of unhappy refugees, and now they have to deal with it. I don't agree with any of the violences, both sides are probobly equally wrong. But its not for us to decide or step in to. We should of left it for them to settle. And they are fighting a war, a war partly of their own making. Maybe also partly the british fault for creating a jewish state, and also for allowing the amount of immigrants to settle in Palistine even though it was over the immigration limit. But I guess they felt sorry for what the Jews in europe went through because of WW2.
[b said:
Would Bush off taken the plane with bin laden in it if he was in the same position Clinton was in, pre- sep. 11. Probobly not, because he's a god fearing man and wouldn't want to start conflict.
Gandhi
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But enough arguing over politics. I think we're both strong headed and neither of us are going to change our minds. So lets just chill and maybe play some SC or CS later.
ToJ | Dead_Aim
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Yeah I better stop before I make you look really stupid
Gandhi
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I thought was going to do that to u
rizz
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[b said:
I know nothing about american politics.. nor do i care or wish to know.. But that scentence is enough to make me ignore anything you say in the future on any subject
ToJ | Dead_Aim
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Mech, let me just say something and correct me if Im wrong, Here in this very forum are people telling you what the FACTS are even to give you examples. You, one person, are telling us things that 1) You can't back up 2) Sound more opinion based to me and a bit ignorant if I might add (I may be wrong but if I am prove me wrong I want sites).
My point in this post is, If ppl are telling you, that you are wrong maybe you should re-evaluate whats happening. Do a little investigating, it won't be hard for you to figure out whats John Skerry really stands for.
My point in this post is, If ppl are telling you, that you are wrong maybe you should re-evaluate whats happening. Do a little investigating, it won't be hard for you to figure out whats John Skerry really stands for.