Homosexuality: Lifestyle Choice?

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Quote[/b] (Dark Virtue @ Oct. 29 2004,8:27)]It's in the BIBLE section.

There are multiple pages to click through.

Not sure if you looked there or not.
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That was the first place I looked. The only scriptural reference I saw was John 3:16 (Whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life), and the rest was their rationalization that because the verse read "whosoever" that Jesus also meant homosexuals, meaning that homosexuality is ok. What about the first chapter of Romans? Did that verse not plainly state the premise of homosexuality? These people have agreed upon the bible as their standard for justifacation, yet they did not bring this up.
 
Well for more information, you'll have it take it up with them
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[b said:
Quote[/b] ] Homosexuality and The Church
The most beautiful word in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is "whosoever" . All of God's promises are intended for every human being. This includes gay men and lesbians. How tragic it is that the Christian Church has excluded and persecuted people who are homosexual!

We are all created with powerful needs for personal relationships. Our quality of life depends upon the love we share with others, whether family or friends, partners or peers. Yet, lesbians and gay men facing hostile attitudes in society often are denied access to healthy relationships. Jesus Christ calls us to find ultimate meaning in life through a personal relationship with our Creator. This important spiritual union can bring healing and strength to all of our human relationships.

Not a Sin_Not a Sickness
For many centuries, the Christian Church's attitude toward human sexuality was very negative: sex was for procreation, not for pleasure; women and slaves were considered property to be owned by males; and many expressions of heterosexuality, like homosexuality, were considered sinful. Such tradition often continues to influence churches today. Many teach that women should be subordinate to men, continue to permit forms of discrimination against peoples of color, and condemn homosexuals. They say that all homosexual acts are sinful, often referring to their interpretation of scripture.

Other churches today are influenced by a century of psychoanalytic thought promoted through a powerful minority in the field of medicine. They see homosexuality as some kind of sickness. Although this view has now been soundly discredited by the medical profession, some churches and clergy continue to be influenced by the idea. They say that homosexuals are "imperfect" and in need of "healing."

The Good News is
that, since 1968, when Metropolitan Community Church was founded, the emergence of a strong lesbian and gay community, and the conclusions of new scientific studies on homosexuality have forced the Christian Church to reexamine these issues. A growing number of biblical and theological scholars now recognize that Scripture does not condemn loving, responsible homosexual relationships. Therefore, gay men and lesbians should be accepted - just as they are-in Christian churches, and homosexual relationships should be celebrated and affirmed!

About The Bible:

The Bible is a collection of writings which span more than a thousand years recounting the history of God's relationship with the Hebrew and Christian people. It was written in several languages, embraces many literary forms, and reflects cultures very different from our own. These are important considerations for properly understanding the Bible in its context. There are vast differences in doctrines between various Christian denominations, all of which use the same Bible. Such differences have led some Christians to claim that other Christians are not really Christians at all! Biblical interpretation and theology differ from church to church.

Biblical Interpretation and Theology
also change from time to time. Approximately 150 years ago in the United States, some Christian teaching held that there was a two-fold moral order: black and white. Whites were thought to be superior to blacks, therefore blacks were to be subservient and slavery was an institution ordained by God. Clergy who supported such an abhorrent idea claimed the authority of the Bible. The conflict over slavery led to divisions which gave birth to some major Christian denominations. These same denominations, of course, do not support slavery today. Did the Bible change? No, their interpretation of the Bible did!
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There is not one single scriputural quote in that article, aside from the single word "whosoever" from John 3:16. What do these people have to say about the first chapter of Romans? It is written quite straightforward; there is little interpretation recquired.
 
During the election coverage last night, I noticed some state was voting on the definition of marriage.

By 2:1, they voted that the definition of marriage is to be ONLY between a man and a woman.
 
just have to point this out i have not been follwoing this for a while, but DV did mention you can make the Bible say just about anything

Which is true, you can do that with just about any piece of paper, i could use the constitution and or the bill of rights to prove that we should be communist, we know that is not the orginal intent of the writers.

Also inorder for many of the radical churchs to say homosexuality is ok they have to do alot of back bending and twisting of what the Bible actually says.
 
I had to read that twice, because I could have sworn you said, "Because it is easier to make it fit what we want it to mean"
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because it is so large you can one specific instance ( maybe Jesus talking directly to rich man to go sell everything and follow him) and apply that to the board stroke saying no one should be rich and that rich people are not Christians we should all be equal in Christ (gal)

Right there its just bad hermanutics of the text, taking what it says and making it say what you want it to say by piecing it together here and there
 
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