Grindhouse

[tjguitarz]

Has anyone seen the movie? I wanted to see it because Tarantino is awesome, but I saw it was R for sexuality and nudity. Can anyone who has seen the movie provide input?

 

[Pelagrin]

It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians.

Here's a review that will give you an idea of why it is rated R http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0003170.cfm

 

[tjguitarz]

Eek! 'nuff said. I definitely won't be seeing that movie. I had no idea it was that bad.

 

[[toj.cc]phantom]

Guess what, I'm going to go see it. I love Tarantino and Rodriguez and yes it has nudity in it, but its not like I've never seen it before.

 

[Coolspot]

It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians.

Here's a review that will give you an idea of why it is rated R http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0003170.cfm

Tarantino has not done or brought stuff over that was all that bad, take a look at Iron Monkey or Hero for example.

 

[Pelagrin]

Guess what, I'm going to go see it. I love Tarantino and Rodriguez and yes it has nudity in it, but its not like I've never seen it before.

That decision is between you and God.

Tarantino has not done or brought stuff over that was all that bad, take a look at Iron Monkey or Hero for example.

Tarantino didn't direct either of those movies. As you mentioned, "brought stuff over", I'm sure you knew that. Regardless, saying "it's not that bad" doesn't mean that it's appropriate from a Christian perspective. I won't say it's right or wrong to watch those movies though, but remember that Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:31, "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."

 

[Coolspot]

Tarantino didn't direct either of those movies. As you mentioned, "brought stuff over", I'm sure you knew that. Regardless, saying "it's not that bad" doesn't mean that it's appropriate from a Christian perspective. I won't say it's right or wrong to watch those movies though, but remember that Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:31, "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."

I do agree with you on that point about not everything is appropriate from a Christian perspective, but I was pointing out that not all that he has done as mentioned in this particular example brought these two movies on over to the north american market are actually some decent films (don't know if you've seen them or not). And that practically everybody can enjoy.

 

[Strong Fortress]

Personally, I have never seen a Tarantino movie I have liked. I would agree that they are all very not good for Christians.

Guess what, I'm going to go see it. I love Tarantino and Rodriguez and yes it has nudity in it, but its not like I've never seen it before.

If a man commits adultry then confesses to his wife, then goes out and commits adultry because he says, "well I've done it before." I am not sure his wife will understand. Is that any different than looking at nudity and "committing adultry in your mind" as Jesus put it, then confessing and repenting, and again viewing nudity again?

We can make excuses that we aren't going to the movie to see the nudity, and that may very well be true, but we are still exposing ourselves to that. One of my favorite movies is Braveheart. I recently got rid of it because of the nudity in it. I did not want to have that in my house anymore.

 

[Pelagrin]

...that not all that he has done...

Convincing the movie studio's to bring over a couple of movies doesn't make those movies his own work. What I said was, "It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians."

I did not see either movie mentioned because they both reminded me of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, which I did not like (personal preference).

However, I did skip Hero because of the following that I read before going to the theater with a friend:

Sexual Content
Broken Sword pushes Moon, his pretty apprentice, to the floor and rips open her gown (we see only her face and shoulders) before having intercourse with her for the purpose of making his beloved, Flying Snow, jealous. (He knows she’s watching from outside the room.) There’s heavy breathing, moaning and sexual motions edited to avoid an R rating. Beyond its sexual nature, this is a loveless, vindictive act. Moon is devoted to her master, yet used and cast off as soon as Broken Sword has made his point to Flying Snow. It’s unclear whether Broken Sword and Flying Snow are married (they are referred to as “lovers”), but they share a bed, implying a sexual relationship. Elsewhere, there is a brief glimpse of a man’s buttocks as he changes clothes. And there's a reference to an affair between Sky and Flying Snow.

Now judging appropriateness for Christians, you have the sexual content mentioned, violence throughout the film, and all relgious content is heavily eastern. I won't say that it's not a good movie to watch in general, but I really don't think it sounds like it would be appropriate from a Christian perspective.

As I mentioned, I haven't seen Iron Monkey, but it's rated PG-13 for martial arts action/violence and brief sexuality. How much or little sexuality should be tolerated for Christian appropriateness?

I know I'm probably being overly strict. I honstly might watch both movies and say that the content doesn't offend me. Still, sometimes I wonder how desensitized I have become to stuff. It would probably be better to overly strict with stuff than to sit back and entertain myself even watching the mildest of sins.

 

[Coolspot]

Convincing the movie studio's to bring over a couple of movies doesn't make those movies his own work. What I said was, "It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians."

Understandable, but I'm not saying that those movies don't make them his either but what I am saying is that he has helped to bring them on over by either a great or small deal. So I think this part we can both in some way agree upon.

I did not see either movie mentioned because they both reminded me of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, which I did not like (personal preference).

However, I did skip Hero because of the following that I read before going to the theater with a friend:

Sexual Content
Broken Sword pushes Moon, his pretty apprentice, to the floor and rips open her gown (we see only her face and shoulders) before having intercourse with her for the purpose of making his beloved, Flying Snow, jealous. (He knows she’s watching from outside the room.) There’s heavy breathing, moaning and sexual motions edited to avoid an R rating. Beyond its sexual nature, this is a loveless, vindictive act. Moon is devoted to her master, yet used and cast off as soon as Broken Sword has made his point to Flying Snow. It’s unclear whether Broken Sword and Flying Snow are married (they are referred to as “lovers”), but they share a bed, implying a sexual relationship. Elsewhere, there is a brief glimpse of a man’s buttocks as he changes clothes. And there's a reference to an affair between Sky and Flying Snow.

Now judging appropriateness for Christians, you have the sexual content mentioned, violence throughout the film, and all relgious content is heavily eastern. I won't say that it's not a good movie to watch in general, but I really don't think it sounds like it would be appropriate from a Christian perspective.

As I mentioned, I haven't seen Iron Monkey, but it's rated PG-13 for martial arts action/violence and brief sexuality. How much or little sexuality should be tolerated for Christian appropriateness?

I know I'm probably being overly strict. I honestly might watch both movies and say that the content doesn't offend me. Still, sometimes I wonder how desensitized I have become to stuff. It would probably be better to overly strict with stuff than to sit back and entertain myself even watching the mildest of sins.

Which is understandable and in many ways I agree with what you say here, not only that but I think your question about how much or little sexuality should be tolerated for Christian appropriateness is a good question to ask. Which is something I can't fully answer obviously because I can't say for every case but still, and I think we all need to some degree be more strict or at very least more discerning with what we watch where it comes to sin regardless of how seemingly great or little it is.

 

[Pelagrin]

Understandable, but I'm not saying that those movies don't make them his either but what I am saying is that he has helped to bring them on over by either a great or small deal. So I think this part we can both in some way agree upon.

I will agree that he helped bring over the movies, but a major point that I was making is that my statement is valid.

"It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians."

If you can show me one of Tarantino's movies that is appropriate for Christians, then I will rethink the statement.

 

[tjguitarz]

If you can show me one of Tarantino's movies that is appropriate for Christians, then I will rethink the statement.

Kill Bill. Because it... uh...


But really, I'll always be a Kill Bill fan. Great fighting scenes and a humorous amount of blood/gore makes for a good time. Granted, it is all about revenge, which is not something Christ followers should be pursuing.

 

[Coolspot]

If you can show me one of Tarantino's movies that is appropriate for Christians, then I will rethink the statement.

Will do, will do.

 

[[toj.cc]phantom]

I don't see the problem, I'm not doing anything that they are in the movie, and I can't think of a time when I actually look at the screen during a scene with nudity in it, by choice might I add. Stop harping on me about going to see a movie, I go to be entertained, nothing else. And to tell the truth, most Christian movies aren't that good, its just a fact.

 

[tjguitarz]

Stop harping on me about going to see a movie

No one's harping.

 

[ChickenSoup]

It's his decision anyway.

 

[Pelagrin]

I don't see the problem, I'm not doing anything that they are in the movie, and I can't think of a time when I actually look at the screen during a scene with nudity in it, by choice might I add. Stop harping on me about going to see a movie, I go to be entertained, nothing else. And to tell the truth, most Christian movies aren't that good, its just a fact.

no harping from me. It's your choice

 

[Coolspot]

Same, no harping from me either.

 

[Dark Virtue]

Convincing the movie studio's to bring over a couple of movies doesn't make those movies his own work. What I said was, "It's pretty much a given that all of Tarantino's movies are inappropriate for Christians."

I did not see either movie mentioned because they both reminded me of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, which I did not like (personal preference).

However, I did skip Hero because of the following that I read before going to the theater with a friend:

Sexual Content
Broken Sword pushes Moon, his pretty apprentice, to the floor and rips open her gown (we see only her face and shoulders) before having intercourse with her for the purpose of making his beloved, Flying Snow, jealous. (He knows she’s watching from outside the room.) There’s heavy breathing, moaning and sexual motions edited to avoid an R rating. Beyond its sexual nature, this is a loveless, vindictive act. Moon is devoted to her master, yet used and cast off as soon as Broken Sword has made his point to Flying Snow. It’s unclear whether Broken Sword and Flying Snow are married (they are referred to as “lovers”), but they share a bed, implying a sexual relationship. Elsewhere, there is a brief glimpse of a man’s buttocks as he changes clothes. And there's a reference to an affair between Sky and Flying Snow.

Now judging appropriateness for Christians, you have the sexual content mentioned, violence throughout the film, and all relgious content is heavily eastern. I won't say that it's not a good movie to watch in general, but I really don't think it sounds like it would be appropriate from a Christian perspective.

As I mentioned, I haven't seen Iron Monkey, but it's rated PG-13 for martial arts action/violence and brief sexuality. How much or little sexuality should be tolerated for Christian appropriateness?

I know I'm probably being overly strict. I honstly might watch both movies and say that the content doesn't offend me. Still, sometimes I wonder how desensitized I have become to stuff. It would probably be better to overly strict with stuff than to sit back and entertain myself even watching the mildest of sins.

There are worse sexual acts in the Bible, yet you consider it appropriate for Christians to read?

 

[Dark Virtue]

I don't see the problem, I'm not doing anything that they are in the movie, and I can't think of a time when I actually look at the screen during a scene with nudity in it, by choice might I add. Stop harping on me about going to see a movie, I go to be entertained, nothing else. And to tell the truth, most Christian movies aren't that good, its just a fact.

Hmm..what use is a set of rules or a subjective code of morality dictated by God if, in the end, everyone thinks it's ok to "decide for themselves"? I never understood that.