Facebook buys Oculus Rift

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Facebook has acquired Oculus VR, the company building the Oculus Rift virtual reality headset, for $2 billion. Oculus will keep its headquarters in Irvine, California.
Source: Facebook buys Oculus VR

No, it's not an early April Fools Day joke.

The good Lord knows I wish it was.

I can't remember the last time I was this disappointed by a gaming news headline.

A VR headset funded by a Kickstarter campaign backed by people legitimately excited about supporting a company at the bleeding edge of virtual reality technology? Yes, please!

A VR headset funded by a company with a blatant disregard for user privacy and known ties to US intelligence agencies? No. Just...no.

At least Sony and Valve are still working on VR hardware. Sony is a terrible company in its own right (stubbornly sticking to proprietary media and other outdated business practices), but maybe Valve will deliver something solid.

Still feels like I've been kicked in the gut. And I don't even own a Rift.
 
I can respond to all the farmville invites in VR now?!?! THIS IS FANTASTIC!
Brilliant. lol


Though... what? I feel like I just got trolled. I was pretty stoked about the tech. I'm not saying this is ggpo for me, but I'm more than a little puzzled.
 
I don't know if it's so much rage as just massive disappointment.

Kind of like Firefly or Futurama getting canceled.

Or finding out your parents sold your pet horse to a glue company.
 
Hey, isn't Sony coming out with a VR system? Now would be a perfect time for their marketing department to do what they do best (a la XboxOne) and gain some more huge hype/love (aka fat stacks of money) from the target base...
 
Any other company buys Occulus and wants to throw massive amounts of money at it and people would cheer like mad. Facebook does it and since it's cool to hate FB, everyone gripes. They bought instagram and it grew from 30 to 300 million users and the only thing FB really interfered with was pulling them off twitter. Given, FB's ability to find unique ways to turn a profit on things, I'm very excited to see what they can do with something that failed in the early 90's. FB's desire to take it beyond just gaming is truly promising because if it stayed merely gaming, it was doomed to fail again. In reality, FB is probably the only company that could make Occulus a usable reality. If you step away from the FB hate group long enough to be rational about it, this isn't as disappointing as Firefly being canceled, it's as exciting as George Lucas announcing he would do Star Wars Episode 1,2 and 3 (until they actually came out anyway).

And as far as Notch and the rest of those from Kickstart complaining... Meh. If your dumb enough to put money up for a Kickstart, you deserve what you get.
 
I read somewhere that FB will likely turn the tech into things like: VR meetings, VR watching football on the sidelines(while your on your couch) and all kinds of other VR neat stuffs. But FB's "connect to FB" to access, tires me.


/me dont have FB, and will prolly never get it.


I wanted VR minecraft so bad.. :-(
 
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Honestly, as long as EVR still happens and is awesome, I really don't care that much. Basically, EVR is the only reason I want the thing in the first place. lol
 
I think the most common reason why people are disappointed by this news is Facebook's character as a company. That is, Facebook has a terrible reputation. And they've earned that terrible reputation.

I could cite specific examples, but it seems someone else has already compiled the information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
 
Facebook, Comcast, Google, the US government. So many differnet groups have terrible reputations and have earned them quite honestly. Yet FB is the only one I regularly see people bash. Google is much worse about privacy and terms of use than FB but it's cool to hate FB so everyone hate's FB and ignores Google.

It became cool to hate FB when older people started using it and it went from hipster clique to mainstream normal. As young people tried to show how unique and different they were from everyone else, the copy cat effect took over.

You hate FB? Fine. But Facebook's track record of making the products it owns profitable and mainstream (among people with jobs and disposable income, not just teens and young people in college living off their parents and loans) is pretty evident. For Occulus to be anything more than an expensive controller/monitor with little to no mainstream attraction it needs a company that wants it for more than just video games. FB is exactly that and has the money, drive and experience to make it happen.
 
Not that I really cared about them but I was disappointed anyone bought Oculus. I thought they were doing fine on their own and hoped they would be content to grow slowly. My concept of the American dream is to build an empire from nothing. It is not to sell out to a big company that lobs money the moment you can. When I heard about Amazon buying Double Helix it elicited the same feelings in me. Sure big companies fastback a product but they rarely care about the vision of it's creators or push innovation with untested ideas. Most of the time it's let's "remake the same thing because it was successful" or "go with the surveys" or "make a copy of what is selling right now". Thus we have COD yams, zombies in everything, Minecraft wannabes, movie/franchise reboots I'd like to forget and reality TV out the wazoo. I'm hoping it will be different with Oculus being hardware but I still felt better when I thought someone who actually cared about their product was in charge. Oh well at least it's not Bobby Kotick.

Weirdly I think of that line in "A Christmas Carol"
"Our contract is an old one. It was made when we were both poor and content to be so, until, in good season, we could improve our worldly fortune by our patient industry. You are changed. When it was made, you were another man.''

Hipster rage is so funny to watch.
That still made me LOL :) .


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Also I don't like Firefly. It spent many episodes building up to an emotional dismissal of Christianity and approval of Atheism. The angry captain who still makes "moral choices", the prostitute who washes the priest's hair sensuously before he dies all leading to the pivotal moment, the priest's final words to the captain "I don't care what you believe just believe it". It's like saying "I don't care if you believe the gun is loaded just believe it" or "I don't care if you believe there is a cliff there just believe it" or "I don't care if you believe you aren't going to hell just believe it". I've got a fun link to a "Christian", I use that term loosely, site that is centered around not "bugging" people with the gospel. This only encourages them.
 
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Not that I really cared about them but I was disappointed anyone bought Oculus. I thought they were doing fine on their own and hoped they would be content to grow slowly.

They had already gone thru two rounds of venture capitalist fund raising before the Facebook deal. Growing slowly on their own was a long dead idea. It's part of why I find the FB rage so funny. No one said anything about the $75 million deal with Andreessen Horowitz VC firm but the FB deal (yes, it's a different kind of deal and much much larger) draws all kinds of comments about selling out and cheating it's kickstart backers.

Sure big companies fastback a product but they rarely care about the vision of it's creators or push innovation with untested ideas. Most of the time it's let's "remake the same thing because it was successful" or "go with the surveys" or "make a copy of what is selling right now". Thus we have COD yams, zombies in everything, Minecraft wannabes, movie/franchise reboots I'd like to forget and reality TV out the wazoo. I'm hoping it will be different with Oculus being hardware but I still felt better when I thought someone who actually cared about their product was in charge. Oh well at least it's not Bobby Kotick.

Hardware is different from consumable content and this is part of why I'm so excited to see FB involved. They've been very successful at finding unique ways to turn a profit on the products they have now. We might not see as much cutting edge from Oculus now but we will see it mainstream instead of periphery.

Also I don't like Firefly. It spent many episodes building up to an emotional dismissal of Christianity and approval of Atheism. The angry captain who still makes "moral choices", the prostitute who washes the priest's hair sensuously before he dies all leading to the pivotal moment, the priest's final words to the captain "I don't care what you believe just believe it". It's like saying "I don't care if you believe the gun is loaded just believe it" or "I don't care if you believe there is a cliff there just believe it" or "I don't care if you believe you aren't going to hell just believe it". I've got a fun link to a "Christian", I use that term loosely, site that is centered around not "bugging" people with the gospel. This only encourages them.

I liked Firefly but hated every animated TV show since the Simpsons. They all depend on copying the success of the Simpsons and add to it with the juvenile or adult humor. I have no desire to watch fart/hooker jokes or other types of sexual/body noise/fluid jokes and innuendos. Nor do I have a desire to expose my family to that. Firefly told a good story with good acting. The themes you mentioned are present in everything produced anymore. If you want to consume mass media you must decide how much of that you wish to consume and adjust accordingly. I honestly can not think of one single sitcom worth watching produced in the last 10 years because of this.
 
I liked Firefly but hated every animated TV show since the Simpsons. They all depend on copying the success of the Simpsons and add to it with the juvenile or adult humor. I have no desire to watch fart/hooker jokes or other types of sexual/body noise/fluid jokes and innuendos. Nor do I have a desire to expose my family to that. Firefly told a good story with good acting. The themes you mentioned are present in everything produced anymore. If you want to consume mass media you must decide how much of that you wish to consume and adjust accordingly. I honestly can not think of one single sitcom worth watching produced in the last 10 years because of this.

We try to avoid such things as well that's why our Netflix queue is full of shows/movies from decades ago (see thread I haven't updated in eons). You are right there are many shows today steeped in humanistic atheism but shows specifically stating it are still avoidable. If I had my druthers I'd rather watch some farting jokes than something that is specifically written to stand against Christianity. Luckily I believe Seth Macfarlane, who makes most of the popular American animated shows, is also a virulent Atheist so I have both reasons not to support him :) . Also Firefly couldn't have been that good the man wrote Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
 
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Also I don't like Firefly. It spent many episodes building up to an emotional dismissal of Christianity and approval of Atheism. The angry captain who still makes "moral choices", the prostitute who washes the priest's hair sensuously before he dies all leading to the pivotal moment, the priest's final words to the captain "I don't care what you believe just believe it".
AHH! GERBIL! SPOILER TAGS! USE THEM!

Granted, I'm 3 episodes and 1 movie away from finishing Firefly, but still, man, c'mon. :p
 
Facebook, Comcast, Google, the US government. So many differnet groups have terrible reputations and have earned them quite honestly. Yet FB is the only one I regularly see people bash. Google is much worse about privacy and terms of use than FB but it's cool to hate FB so everyone hate's FB and ignores Google.
Oh, I'm pretty sure I (and others) have blasted all the entities you've mentioned at some point (and with good reason).

It became cool to hate FB when older people started using it and it went from hipster clique to mainstream normal. As young people tried to show how unique and different they were from everyone else, the copy cat effect took over.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure Facebook's blatant disregard for user privacy also played its part.

For Occulus to be anything more than an expensive controller/monitor with little to no mainstream attraction it needs a company that wants it for more than just video games.
I don't think people were disappointed so much by the fact that a company outside the games industry purchased Oculus, but rather that Facebook, specifically, purchased Oculus. When people are excited about a new technology, they don't like seeing it sold to a corporation whose primary source of revenue is advertising.
 
AHH! GERBIL! SPOILER TAGS! USE THEM!

Granted, I'm 3 episodes and 1 movie away from finishing Firefly, but still, man, c'mon. :p

Sorry T_T. I felt it was important people should know what they are supporting prior to seeing it. I've seen to many gush over that series on the forums and I don't know how to convince people without stating specifics. If it means anything I never actually watched that episode entirely but googled ahead prior. As such maybe it still has surprise entertainment or some other redeeming value. Ok the writing was decent, not splendorous, but better than Buffy I'll admit (that's not saying much though). Only it was extremely clear a few shows in it was leading up to an overarching moral statement for the entire series so I purposely looked ahead. I had actually hoped it would ultimately be a redemptive Christian one, like being saved, but instead got the opposite. That's when I learned who Joss Wheaton was and how he didn't like the "Sky Bully". It's like warning people off Bunny Drop season two but here I don't think vagueness will cut it. Sorry but the main moral theme is written to directly oppose Christianity, there is nothing it could say after it's dismissal of Christ that could get me to like it, that priest is not a Christian. It also reflects bad writing that a Christian would say that and is still supposed to be considered a Christian so we "feel" for the atheist. No point in stopping now though I'd finish watching it if I was that close myself so I'd know for sure. Wheaton had some minor themes in Avengers too but it was of the more common vague sort.

Also the prostitute washing the priest's hair sensuously, I just can't get over it, it's just so pretentious...
 
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I guess I've just come to assume that contemporary science fiction and fantasy is written predominantly by angry atheists. Read enough George R.R. Martin's works and you'll come to wonder if a Catholic priest ran over his pet dog when he was a kid or something. When people call Martin "the modern Tolkien," I want to wretch; Tolkien's faith featured heavily (though not, in my opinion, heavy-handedly) in his work whereas Martin's bald nihilism in A Song of Ice and Fire leads me to recommend Christians avoid the series entirely.

The author's world view will find its way into the story and Firefly was no exception. I had just hoped (based on early episodes) that it wouldn't be nearly so antagonistic toward Christianity as later episodes revealed. In fact, early on, I thought it was cool that there was finally a sci-fi story where Christianity had survived in the future and was still being preached among new colonies on new planets. I also thought the shepherd character was actually interesting before he started prattling on about "believing in something" rather than specifics.

I'm encouraged whenever I remember that (in my opinion and, I imagine, many others') two of the greatest fantasy series of the twentieth century (The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia) were written by Christian authors whose faith permeated their stories.

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But back to Facebook buying Oculus: I admit that I, and I suspect many other tech enthusiasts, really wanted to get excited about something that seemed daring, pioneering, and aimed at making our childhood dreams a reality. So while our heads were in the clouds, dreaming about a wonderful VR future, someone came along and kicked us in the head and back down to reality: Ideals don't cut it. Dreams don't pay bills. Corporations exist to make a profit. Harsh facts govern business practices.

I guess I just wanted to dream a little longer--maybe long enough to try an Oculus Rift headset for myself. (I'd even toyed with the idea of buying the latest version of the headset with gift money I'd saved up.) Now? I find I don't really care any more. The future of VR just doesn't seem amazing any more. I won't say VR is dead. In fact, its prospects may be better than ever. It's just not exciting with Facebook in control (and have no illusions on that point; Facebook bought Oculus, so Facebook is in control).

I can't help but think of that scene in The Incredibles when Mr. Incredible turns to the kid in the driveway and asks, "What are you waiting for?" And the kid answers, "I don't know. Something amazing, I guess?" And instead of something amazing, we get Facebook.

If John Carmack is still excited, then hey, I'm happy for him. But I find that I just don't care at this point. I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to get excited again. And I guess time will tell how it all plays out.
 
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