DUMB TEAM STACKAGE!

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crazy_legs

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ok, recently whenever i have joined onto the ToJ server, the teams have always been stacked.. ALWAYS... i am getting sick of it and thinkin of not playin there much anymore.. SOMEONE HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS DUMB TEAM STACKING!!! IT IS MAKING ME VERY ANGRY!!!!!!
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Main problem is that you can join either team no matter which has more people fix that and it should be perfect. I have seen pbt used on other servers it takes skill into effect but I would rather have unballanced teams then be switched every 30 seconds like i usualy am.
 
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Quote[/b] (crazy_legs @ June 13 2003,1:48)]ok, recently whenever i have joined onto the ToJ server, the teams have always been stacked.. ALWAYS...
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Do you mean in terms of numbers or in terms of skill?
 
I agree with you crazy... It has always been a pet peeve of mine to see uneven teams, especially on a server where most everyone knows everyone. I make it a point to always check the scores after every round and see which teams needs the most help. If necessary, I will switch to try and even the teams. I believe that the point of playing cs on the ToJ server is to HAVE FUN... all of us should try and attain a spirit of fellowship while playing on this server, not see who is the better cs player. We all know who is good, we dont need constant reminders, and we also dont need all the good players on the same team.

Here are some suggestions I have for ToJ members and anyone else reading this post:

1. If you see the teams are stacked, and your team is running over the other after a few rounds...switch...dont wait for someone to start complaining about the stackage.

2. If you see that your whole team is using an AWP and winning every round, drop yours. Maybe even remind your team to settle down on the AWP usage.

3. If your killing everyone in site with an AWP, Colt, AK, (glock? hehe), drop it and find a less powerful weapon to use. Let some other people get some kills.

My point is this: we are here to have fun. We are here to fellowship with each other and encourage one another in our faith. Christ should be in our hearts while we are playing on the server (and anytime of the day). Try and be more mindful of others while on the server and dont just focus on how well YOU are doing.

God Bless ya'll

-Godspeed
 
The problem here is that it's a public server, and a majority of players are pubbers. It is very difficult to maintain order from someone who just doesn't care and wants 'pwn' everyone. We, as admins, try and make sure that not only is everyone playing fair by not cheating, but also from team stacking and anything that makes it unfair for all other players.

Godspeed has some great ideas, maybe if enough of us start setting that precedent, we can have a positive effect on those public players and turn things around...on our OWN server!
 
Agreed with Godspeed: Christians should be mindful and considerate to others during gameplay.

However as Elite put, there are others in the server who might not care about this.

I think the easiest way is to give admins "admin_ct/t" commands, so admins can take on their own hands if players don't listen to their pleas.

Oh, funny thing is: I did comment on this this morning...
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well, I guess my clan set off crazy and I do agree with him but as many of you have seen when -=[dB]=- members are on a team and are whoppin up we tend to do what Godspeed suggested and pistol or smg a lot..
 
True Zealot.. true.. and they sometimes disguise them selves as others.. i've seen boonhoward change his name to Zealot, others changing to others like crazy, dead_aim and so on.. anyways the stacking teams gotta be stopped. I believe theres a command where you cna limit the ratio of difference between players. Like u cannot join ct unless theres enough ts to balance it out. I dont' have dedicated serv, but i use that all the time to stop the team stack (although its 6 people and pod bots only, i still like it :P) and Since i don't have admin mod for cs, its normal console command.
If our ToJ server is able to use it, it'd be very good.

mp_limitteams ?
?=value of maximum number of players that one team can have more than the other team - Use a setting of '0' to completely disable the team limiting

So far, the thing is disabled so that team stack is available. If we could find a way to use limit teams or use admin mod to change the default setting, we'll have no problem with team stack
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But doing this is totally up to the admins.. im no admin, jus suggesting wat i think is good :P
 
It's a good point, but on the other hand, if u work with stratagies, you can also win. Thats how i can pwnz sometimes. However, without the cooperation of your team (unless its 1v1 :P) your out of choices. Skill may be the key, but with good enough strats to counter it, I believe theres a way to defeat them. Plus, n00bs are n00bs because they cannot learn, or some xperts jus ignore them and disrespect them as a n00b, instead of ur teammate. But i think if u take a lil time teaching them about tricks or explaining them ur plans, and keep encouraging, u cna definitely counter the skill.

Adding to that, i'd like to thank all of ToJ members actually teaching, helping and encouraging in cs which prepared me and tought me to be today's pwnzer
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Quote[/b] (Flash @ June 13 2003,5:11)]mp_limitteams ?
?=value of maximum number of players that one team can have more than the other team - Use a setting of '0' to completely disable the team limiting

So far, the thing is disabled so that team stack is available.
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FYI, limitteams variable is set to "1" as far as I know: I have seen *auto team balance* in action on our server, forcing lopsided teams to have the same number of players.

As Z said, it boils down to a matter of skill, not number of players.
 
aAAAAAAGGGHH!!!

Don't any one actually pay attention to my post?? :P
come on guyz i know skill plays big role, but what will you do if people jump here and there vanishing out of thin air and all that using terrains?? and another thing, u don't know the map, that'll reduce ur skill to a big big n00b

O and autoteambalance has nothing to do with the limitteams. limitteams affect when u first join the server and choose team or when u press M to change team. Autoteambalance has to wait an unfair round to switch back and again. autoteambalance and limitteam (TOGETHER) are effective if they are on together, but recently i've never actually seen them on unless an admin was on.. which gives me a suspicion that its only on when admin is on... who knows?? im not the server operator q:D
 
As it is now if the terrorists are losing all of them can choose to join ct (which i have seen happen). We realy need to put that at 0 or 1 to make it where you cant join the team with more people.
 
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Quote[/b] (crazy_legs @ June 13 2003,1:48)]ok, recently whenever i have joined onto the ToJ server, the teams have always been stacked.. ALWAYS...
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Do you mean in terms of numbers or in terms of skill?
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deffinatly in terms of skill.. like not too long ago, all of the T team was the clan [dB] and they were completely owning everyone.. it was no fun not even being able to get a kill!
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.. and u all know that if i'm not getting kills, than many others probably arnt either.. cause of meh 1337 h4x
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Unfortunately noone is the same in skill. I think that limiting the teams does work and if its not enabled as flash says then it should be.

Of course its up to us in toj to set the example and change when teams are being stacked. Even if we are not the ones doing the stacking.
 
no it doesnt about half the time it assigns me to the team that has more ppl/ is pwning
 
I always use auto team select and i do find that at least 30% of the time it puts me on the wrong team
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Right now on our server, mp_limitteams is set to 6, meaning it could be up to 6 on 1 before mp_autoteambalance kicks in. I think we ought to lower it.
 
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