Does religion matter for being a Christian?

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A co-worker at work(well duh), he told me he doesnt eat from sunrise to sunset(around 9 am - 7 pm; about 12 hours), hes in some kind of, Festing, you dont eat and drink anything during that rise/set period. Btw, he chose to do this, voluntary, he said you dont have to be on a Festing. He tells me hes, Bahai, I looked it up, anyone know if being in different religions, or being Christian matters?

Religions as in, Demonations, or w/e its spelled!

www.bahai.org

And I believe there is a God, just 1 God! (If you were gonna ask.)
 
Bahai is a tricky religion. It says that pretty much, whatever you feel is right. It does not accept the divinity of Christ but rather sees Him as just a messenger. It is NOT a Christian denomination.

"Know thou, of a truth, that if the soul of man hath walked in the ways of God, it will, assuredly return and be gathered to the glory of the Beloved," Bahá'u'lláh wrote. "By the righteousness of God! It shall attain a station such as no pen can depict, or tongue can describe."

hhmmmm, walking the ways of God can be difficult for us mortals. According to Bahai, here are some of them....

Be generous in prosperity, and thankful in adversity. Be worthy of the trust of thy neighbor, and look upon him with a bright and friendly face. Be a treasure to the poor, an admonisher to the rich, an answerer of the cry of the needy, a preserver of the sanctity of thy pledge. Be fair in thy judgment, and guarded in thy speech. Be unjust to no man, and show all meekness to all men. Be as a lamp unto them that walk in darkness, a joy to the sorrowful, a sea for the thirsty, a haven for the distressed, an upholder and defender of the victim of oppression. Let integrity and uprightness distinguish all thine acts. Be a home for the stranger, a balm to the suffering, a tower of strength for the fugitive. Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light unto the feet of the erring. Be an ornament to the countenance of truth, a crown to the brow of fidelity, a pillar of the temple of righteousness, a breath of life to the body of mankind, an ensign of the hosts of justice, a luminary above the horizon of virtue, a dew to the soil of the human heart, an ark on the ocean of knowledge, a sun in the heaven of bounty, a gem on the diadem of wisdom, a shining light in the firmament of thy generation, a fruit upon the tree of humility.

So, tell a lie, even a little one, you are not walking in the ways of God. Not giving money to a beggar is not walking in the ways of God. Using profanity is not walking the ways of God. Yet, through it all, no mention of guaranteed forgiveness for sin. So there are no real assurance that glory, paradise or any other state of afterlife will be attained. There is only one religion that has a 100% guarantee of salvation. And only 1 way to God. And that is savlation through Jesus Christ.

Gen
 
God hates organized religion. Religion, that is the key word. He wants believers who trust in Jesus as their Saviour to gather together. But without Jesus, it is just another organized religion that has the propensity to draw others away from Christ. If any group is gathering in the name of a church and do not proclaim Jesus and Him crucified, run for your life!
 
Demonations, or w/e its spelled!;NOT a Christian denomination.

Makes me laugh how I spelled it wrong and mine partly says, Demon...lol

There is only one religion that has a 100% guarantee of salvation. And only 1 way to God. And that is savlation through Jesus Christ.

Salvation is a religion? How about people(which many have said in their own), being saved equals(=) Christian?
being saved equals(=) What religion?
being saved equals(=) What denomations?
being saved equals(=) Legal?

If any group is gathering in the name of a church and do not proclaim Jesus and Him crucified, run for your life!

Then, are there churches that do proclaim Jesus and Him crucifed? Wouldn't that be so......bad?
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Corp, that is where we part. In this group, as in any group of Christians outside a church, you will find many denominations. It is wonderful that we are bonded here, not by denomination, but by Jesus and Him Crucified. First and foremost, I tell you, yes, a church must be preaching Jesus for salvation for it to mirror the Biblical defination of a church. My preference is that I never walk through the doors of the church without hearing about Jesus dying for me. There are many people from many denominations that believe in Jesus in this group. I have great respect for them, so all I will say is that I like Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches. When I was led to the LORD, that is the church I was in. I will also go on to say, among those churches, I am drawn to those that have loving, kind, and friendly members. Therefore, not even all the IFBC are for me! That is a matter of the LORD's leading, and individual preference as to the type of church that you choose.
 
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Good thoughts.

Satan is a very clever deceiver. Often, what he does is take the word of God, change it ever so slightly, and that causes us to not notice it and to serve his purposes instead of God's. I mean, that stuff that Gen quoted all sounds really positive, like it could come from God... but God speaks differently about some of it.

Be fair in thy judgment, and guarded in thy speech.

We are not called to be fair judges, but righteous. We are not called to be guarded in speech, but bold.

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. John 7:24
But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 1 Thes 2:2

Be...a breath of life to the body of mankind...

We are not the breath of life, we simply point the way to the Author of life.

The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Job 33:4

And to answer your other questions:

being saved equals(=) What religion? None in particular, it's an individual decision to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

being saved equals(=) What denomations? None in particular, it's an individual decision to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

being saved equals(=) Legal? Nothing in particular, it's an individual decision to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.
 
Does religion matter for being a Christian?
No, Religion doesn’t matter to a Christian whose primary concern should be their relationship with Jesus Christ.

But some who believe they are Christians; Are not scriptural sound. I was lucking in my walk with God. I firmly believe the Bible. It is what defines the walk of any “true” Christian. Specifically The new testament, because Lord Jesus Christ Paid for our Sins.

I hope that helps

So being a Christian you proclaim Lord Jesus Christ as Lor d and Savoir, for details on what the exactly means , I suggest the New testament.
 
Jesus desires for you to be saved and He wants a relationship with you. He loves you that much! The utmost important thing after salvation, is our heat attitude and relationship with Him. Sadly, the rules of religion can come between us and our relationship/heart attitude toward God.
 
Yup. We have all gotten so boggled up about it, is that the "newcomers" get :confused: and think that they must do list:

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To be saved. No. Church is simply a gathering of people who believe in Christ.

Simple as that. :p

I do NOT see anything that is hindering anyone from being a Christian...

And also some verse in John I think...
Some people will seek me and find me...
I learned that from "Case for Faith" *lee strobel = lol* It says that SOME people will find him, while some won't. Why? Because they don't want to find him.

Rev3

I am knocking on the door! Those who let me in... blahblahblah. I forgot
, but that phrase is on EVERYSINGLE IN-N-OUT BURGER YOU BUY! MUAHAHAH! *note if you do not know, look for it!*
 
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I am knocking on the door! Those who let me in... blahblahblah. I forgot
, but that phrase is on EVERYSINGLE IN-N-OUT BURGER YOU BUY! MUAHAHAH! *note if you do not know, look for it!*

SilentAssassin, yours nuts... :confused:

Yup. We have all gotten so boggled up about it, is that the "newcomers" get :confused: and think that they must do list:

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Keyword
I WAS a Christian.

Why am I not a Christian now, I lost it(I lost control).
So, I'm just getting the facts straighting out.
 
Here is an old post I had done a while ago on religious pluralism. I hadn't posted it to the CGA but to a Star Wars Galaxies forum that I was associated with at the time. Its just an interesting read for any interested and relates a little to this topic.




One of the most commonly held beliefs is something called religious pluralism. This is the idea that we must acknowledge that all religions, Christian and non, are equally (or near equally) valid as ways to approach God. Though there may be differences among the world religions, at heart they are fundamentally the same. Often, the analogy is used of people taking different paths up the same mountain, but all arriving at the same summit.

The second answer that many take to heart is that it doesn’t matter whether you believe in Christ, or believe in another religion, whether you go to church or pray or just be a good person. As long as one tries to live a moral life and live with a good conscience, then they are included in Christ’s salvation, even if they never heard of Jesus.

The third answer is the one held by a majority of bible believing Christians. It is the view that though there are indeed truths and values in many other religions, there is only one saving truth, namely the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Which answer is the correct answer? Which ones are misleading? And why? Well, let’s take a closer look at each one.

In the case of the first answer, it is believed by these people that all religions share a fundamental unity that renders them equally valid as approaches to God. However, this idea significantly underestimates the differences between the teachings of various religions. Let's take Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Christianity for example. In classic Buddhism, the problem facing humanity is the suffering caused by desire. Since whatever man desires is not permanent, and ultimately leads to frustration and sorrow, the way to peace of mind and ultimate "salvation" is through the elimination of all desire-even the desire to live. In classic Hinduism, the problem facing humanity is our being trapped in this illusory, material world over the course of many lifetimes primarily due to our ignorance of our true identity as the fundamentally divine beings. The solution to that dilemma is our recognition of our true divine nature. In Islam, man's problem is his failure to live by the law of God which has been revealed through His prophets. The solution is to commit himself to obeying God's laws, in hope that his good deeds will outweigh the bad. In Christianity, the problem is similar – man’s rebellion against the will of God. But the solution is much different. It is through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus for our sins, provided by God's unmerited graces.
Now from these examples alone, it shows that even though there may be similarities among the world's religions, the differences are fundamental in nature. Although there is a commonality in regards to seeking a 'religious experience' or seeking the moral and ethical improvement of man, the path of each religion and the endpoint solution each religion requires is quite different. So it is not likely that all religions lead to the same kind of God or goal and is sometimes contradictary (like islam is saved through works, Christianity is saved through faith) and as such, they cannot all be correct.

In the case of the second viewpoint, people believe that Christ's salvation is available to anybody who positively responds to the truth they have, whether it be through creation, conscience, another religion, or some other means. However, lets go to the bible to see what it says in regards to being saved by Christ. In the new testament, Acts, chapter 10, there was a man called Cornelius who is referred to as "a devout man, . . . who feared God," and this was before he heard the Gospel. It is in the next chapter (Acts 11:13-14) in which Cornelius had spoken of a message given to him. He was told to send for Peter, and Peter will bring a message through which Cornelius and his household will be saved. So even though up to this point, Cornelius was a God fearing man, he did not receive salvation until he heard and believed in the Gospel. For even the bible says in Romans 10:17 "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of (or about) Christ"
So what does that mean? For those who know of God and live a good life, but do not yet know Christ, is there no hope for them? Well actually, the story of Cornelius is a good illustration of the biblical solution to this problem. Because he had tried to live a good life based on what he knew about God, God saw that he eventually received the gospel, in this case through Peter. But it was only then that he experienced Christ's salvation and the forgiveness of sins. This principle was also well summarized in Jesus' statement: "To him who has, shall more be given" (Mark 4:25) So being good is nice, but to obtain salvation, according to the bible, one must accept the gospel of Christ; and to those who seek to lead moral lives or to live good according to their heart, God will make sure that somehow, the gospel will be brought to them as God did with Cornelius. So it is not likely that one cannot be saved without the Gospel of Christ.

Then there is the third answer. A large majority of Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through the faith of Jesus Christ and no other way. They believe this because the bible tells them so.
John 3:3 ". . . no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
John 3:15 ". . . everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life"
John 3:18 ". . . whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
John 14:6 "Jesus answered: 'No one comes to the Father except through me' "
Acts 3:23 "And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet [Jesus] shall be utterly destroyed from among the people."
Acts 4:12 "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
Romans 10:9 "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved"
Hebrews 9:28 ". . . he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him"
1 John 5:12 ". . . he who does not have the Son of God [Jesus] does not have life."
They have taken this believe not because it sounds mean, or because they have something that nobody else have. Christians believe this answer because it is what the bible tells them.

So now that I've shared with you the three most common answers to those questions, let me take each question individually and answer them according to the bible.

"So what does that mean? In a hypothetical case, does that mean I would not be accepted into Heaven? I think I am a good person, and to be shunned because I did not go to Church or pray nightly seems like a very unfair system to me."

You have a good heart, and you have a good soul. Do you think God sees this and keep you from heaven? Of course not. He loves you as well as all his creation. Therefore, as he did to Cornelius, he will do to you. God will send someone to bring you the gospel of Christ. And all you have to do is accept what Jesus did or not. Salvation is not by works. You cannot earn your way into heaven. Nobody can because nobody is perfect. It is why God sent His son to this Earth to be a teacher, a healer, and a friend, someone who paid the pentalties for all of our wrongdoings so that we could be forever forgiven. So your salvation all depends on whether you choose to believe in Jesus or not, not if you pray or go to church.

"So if Watbu lives a good life, but is not officially a Christian - is he doomed?"

Same answer. He's only doomed if he rejects the gospel that God will bring him. But he's not yet doomed until his last breath because God will always give him the opportunity to learn about Jesus.

"What about the people who have never heard of Christianity?"

Same answer. God will find a way to bring the news of Christ to these people. And he does it through the missionaries that he sends throughout the world.
 
Next time, Malohaut, make it in short sentences or short points. I'm not a brainiac, unlike everyone that is...... :mad:
 
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