Do not buy pepsi!

Oh sure Eon, so the solution is to perpetuate hatred and shut up Christians because some retards that called themselves Christians commited atrocities. Real smart, coming from you especially.
 
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Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Dec. 19 2003,6:46)]thanks BigJ
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Quite welcome.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Eon @ Dec. 19 2003,1:30)]I agree for the most part with the atheists opinion - except for the bit where he's allowed to laugh openly at me. After all - one's freedom to swing one's fist ends at another persons nose, doesn't it?
Well, why not?

Oooh...I just got hit by lightning. Was it:
1. Jehovah
2. Zeus
3. Thor (my Norse mythos is a bit...lacking)
or
4. The fact that I was standing in an open field holding a large metal rod?

If I laugh at the first two...what makes you special?

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Quote[/b] ]The problem comes when Secular and Theological law end up butting heads at the fenceline. The seperation of church and state is designed to ensure that this fenceline occurs in the home, in the community but NOT in a state run school.

It is perfectly legal to teach about religion in school. You can talk about beliefs. The line is drawn in public schools when leaders begin prosletyzing (sic).

Bad things happen on both sides. There are school officials who will punish a kid who prays on his own. Another atheist related a story about how one of her child's teachers told her child that people should believe in Jesus.

I have NO problems with children learning about religion in public school, where it is appropriate.

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Quote[/b] ]Of course it should be fine for a Christian child to say a QUIET prayer over his lunch, but it shouldn't be aloud, and it shouldn't be something he encourages others to do at school. Otherwise we're crossing the line between personal observance and indoctrination.

Sorry, but no.
Students can pray all they want, as long as they don't disturb others. As an example, it is fine to pray over lunch. It is not fine to start loudly praying during a lecture.

Hey, feel free to write your senator to get the law changed. Of course, it will be found unconstitutional again, as it was before. All Newdow and similar suits have held is that forced/school sponsored/initiated prayer is a no no.
 
That's where a literal interpretation of religious metaphor means that you'll never be able to co-exist with other peoples. Laugh all you want at ideas that strike you as absurd - just don't laugh at the people who hold them, was my point. And if it comes to it, the idea that we can claim to have found proof of NOTHING is the most absurd idea of all - you can't prove nothingness through the inability to prove a specific somethingness, that's the worst sort of intellectual laziness! ;)

As for those who talk about putting too much weight on the 'mistakes' of the Catholic faith - Cotton Mather was NOT catholic. Matthew Hopkins was NOT catholic. You decieve yourselves if you feel that all the opression and persecution stopped on a dime when the Protestant faiths broke from the Catholic church!

Take a look at what ACTUALLY happened! At what your church DID to those who dared to believe differently. I'm not asking for reparations - I'm just asking you to feel the weight of what was done in your name, and which by excusing you support. This is not a little misunderstanding - this is an attempted genocide that very almost suceeded - done in the name of the God of LOVE??

And yes, those who forget the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them. So why blame people for being wary of a dog with a reputation for biting?
 
I think everyones missing the point here.. and its that you shouldnt drink pepsi.. cos it takes like yak urine.
 
Good point Rizz - here's a real philosophical conundrum though. You can't get regular coke and you NEED a hit of fizzy goodness. Which of the two alternatives do you choose?

1. Sugarfree Caffeinated Coke?
2. Regular Caffeine free Coke?

Tricky, huh?
 
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Quote[/b] (Eon @ Dec. 20 2003,9:06)]As for those who talk about putting too much weight on the 'mistakes' of the Catholic faith - Cotton Mather was NOT catholic. Matthew Hopkins was NOT catholic. You decieve yourselves if you feel that all the opression and persecution stopped on a dime when the Protestant faiths broke from the Catholic church!
I never did say catholic, I said people who called themselves christians. You cannot be a christian and do everything directly opposite its teachings.
 
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Quote[/b] ]Good point Rizz - here's a real philosophical conundrum though. You can't get regular coke and you NEED a hit of fizzy goodness. Which of the two alternatives do you choose?

1. Sugarfree Caffeinated Coke?
2. Regular Caffeine free Coke?

Tricky, huh?

No one should be put through the rigours of that horrible dilemma...cruel and unusual...
 
uhh who are the 2 mathews metniond? amd pepsi doesnt taste like yak urine it tastes like bear urine :P . jk i prefer pepsi for fizzyness. however cherry coke is best of the multi flavored coke n pepsis
 
It's not a bad idea for a poll - even though it's like asking which limb you'd eat first in a survival situation! ;)

There's only one Matthew mentioned - Matthew Hopkins, also known as the WitchFinder General. Despite England's rather lacklustre participation in what my Wiccan friends refer to as the "burning times" (that little period of theological debate between Christian's and Pagans in the Middle Ages) Matthew Hopkins tried to purify the South of England - or he earned pennies for each man, woman and child he got credulous peasants to burn in the name of Jesus, depending on your perspective. ;)

Eon
 
cherry coke is the roxor..

in light of a coke free enviroment.. any cherry drink will suffice.. the more caffeine the better.. lol

mountain dew code red.. mmm.. i wish we had it in england..
 
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Quote[/b] (Eon @ Dec. 20 2003,10:52)]It's not a bad idea for a poll - even though it's like asking which limb you'd eat first in a survival situation! ;)
that's easy...eat anyone else's limb but my own
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hehehehe good one wheat. wow i dont know any wiccans. even if theirs a buddist temple 5 houses down and the island is exremely new agey i havent met any yet.
 
Wiccan's tend to stick within their covens - there is still a certain danger in "coming out of the broom closet"...
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Quote[/b] (rizz @ Dec. 20 2003,7:25)]I think everyones missing the point here.. and its that you shouldnt drink pepsi.. cos it takes like yak urine.
So Yaks Urine has no taste either?
 
lol hopefully my youth group leaders dont read this they might use yak or bear urine for challenge night
 
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