TheJfreak
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I was doing school today and i was wondering can you sin in a dream just wondering
Can you sini n a dream
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interesting question, i believe u can if it is a realy lustful type dream and u think bout it, to me that would be the same as lust. then again im not sure
TastyWheat
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No.
As soon as you're able to make willing, cogent decisions in your dreams, let me know. Then I'll tell you not to sin.
If you're displeased with the things going on in your dreams, try to work on the stuff going through your head during the day, when you do have a choice. While the brain often goes off on its own tangent when it dreams, the part of dreaming that is affected by review and internalization of the prior day can be altered.
As soon as you're able to make willing, cogent decisions in your dreams, let me know. Then I'll tell you not to sin.
If you're displeased with the things going on in your dreams, try to work on the stuff going through your head during the day, when you do have a choice. While the brain often goes off on its own tangent when it dreams, the part of dreaming that is affected by review and internalization of the prior day can be altered.
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I've made cognitive, willful judgements and decisions in dreams before. Someone says something, takes me someplace, does something, and I say: "NO. This isn't right, can't be right, I'm not doing it" and then, as the impossibilities that dreams allow begin to occur, the dream begins to deteriorate in a generally poorer direction. For instance, I may be flying (yes...what're you looking at?), and then impact hits me: I can't fly, this is wrong, this is against reality, and that's not the DREAM speaking, this is logic coming in to my dreamworld and saying "This is not possible" and, yes, sometimes morals, too. "What I am doing is not right" or "It is right for me to do such and such."
Yes. I think that dreams are capable of spawning sin pits in odd senses. Differently than if you're awake and thinking on your own (if we ever do that...isn't it all just one nice chain reaction with forced concentration from time to time on certain things?). I think dreams are held to a different stick than conscious thought is, however, despite what you can or can't do in dreams.
Yes. I think that dreams are capable of spawning sin pits in odd senses. Differently than if you're awake and thinking on your own (if we ever do that...isn't it all just one nice chain reaction with forced concentration from time to time on certain things?). I think dreams are held to a different stick than conscious thought is, however, despite what you can or can't do in dreams.
TastyWheat
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Can you clarify this statement for me? If dreams are held to a "different stick" than conscious thought, what is different about this stick? (I'm guessing that despite mentioning this different stick and still answering "yes" to Jfreak's question, that the stick must refer to something other than blatantly disobeying God's will)[b said:
Scripture doesn't say much in regard to this particular issue...with the exception of dreams either possibly being messages from God or devices of Satan. I'm not so sure that we're able to verbally say "no" to God in dreams and have it count as sinning. It could be the effects of our corrupt sinful nature, but I don't think that it is held against us, just as our sinful nature doesn't bar us from heaven in conscious thought (unless we embrace our sinful nature and entertain it). If you were to have a dream every night about killing Christians and cursing God, yet in conscious, waking thought you knew you were a Christian and you loved God, would you be considered double-minded and be condemned to hell? I realize that the saying "garbage in, garbage out" is very applicable here, but I'm interested in what you think; I've never really thought about this issue until this thread, and it's pretty intriguing.
TheJfreak
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ty for your answers
i've had some dreams where some freaked out things happened cos i did the wrong thing in them. I woke up freakin out. then i realised what the consequence of some of those decisions could be without having to actually go through it. whew.
No i don't think you can sin in your dreams. But if your not sure, forgiveness is free and easily asked for.
cheers
sealcomm
No i don't think you can sin in your dreams. But if your not sure, forgiveness is free and easily asked for.
cheers
sealcomm
flying is fun
specially when u can turn super seiyan (i use to watch DBZ alot
) anyways im not sure that the prior day can help u, cuz ive noticed that when i hjad my DBZ dream i hadt watched it for 2 weeks, nor other dreams when they turned ugly. and there is a certain amount of counsieness in dreams where ive noticed that i can think and/or tell my self to wake up in a normal dream, even thougt of what id done in the day when i fainted after getting a shot
then i relized last i remember was the counter i relized somethin was wrong so i woke up.as think bout it that was prolly the best rest id gotten in a while
Master~Plan
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I thought about the question and I couldn't argue either way. If you can sin in a dream that brings up a whole new list of grey areas. Like in one dream there was a big guy with a mask and like a 3ft piece of metal pipe in his hand standing in front of me. At first I was scared, but then I guess the fear turned into anger, and I ran at him and beat the crap out of him. I woke up before I could kill him, hehe. The poor guy did nothing to me, but I beat him up. In real life I would get beat up by the big guy, but I guess in dreams I'm pretty leet. In real life if I started beating on someone just for wearing a mask, and looking scary, I'm pretty sure that would be a sin. Theres a lot of scary gothic people out there. So, did I sin? dunno, I made the cognitive descision to attack w/o a cause. but then maybe my judgement was impared? maybe it wasn't?
In another really wierd dream, I was going through like a level in a game where bowser was at the end. at first he was huge and scary, but I guess the same thing happened, my fear turned into anger. I took off my belt and beat bowser over the head with the buckle untill he died. would that be murder? or would bowser fall under that category of an animal? haha, kind of funny to think about. I guess I"m pretty hot tempered in dreams, and in real life people tell me I am very docile. I guess I'll stop rambling before you guys think I'm any crazier...
In another really wierd dream, I was going through like a level in a game where bowser was at the end. at first he was huge and scary, but I guess the same thing happened, my fear turned into anger. I took off my belt and beat bowser over the head with the buckle untill he died. would that be murder? or would bowser fall under that category of an animal? haha, kind of funny to think about. I guess I"m pretty hot tempered in dreams, and in real life people tell me I am very docile. I guess I'll stop rambling before you guys think I'm any crazier...
Jango
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I may be wrong, but I think you may be reffering to what's named a "wet dream". No, that is not a sin. It is your body's way of getting the extra "stuff". It is a part of God's design, not a sin. If that is not what you are talking about, then my answer is still "no". If God would blame you for the things that would be sins in real life, then He might as well send us all to hell, because we have no control over our dream.
Master~Plan
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well, is sin a cognitive choice, or is it the outcome of our choice?
CCGR
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sin is disobeying God so it's our choice and not the result
Master~Plan
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So if you chose to disobey God in a dream is it not a sin?
Master~Plan
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^ heh, if by cs you mean sc, then your rite
anyway back on subject, I lean towards/favor the side of not being able to sin in dreams, however I guess i can argue either way, and don't think the question of sin in dreams is improbable.
anyway back on subject, I lean towards/favor the side of not being able to sin in dreams, however I guess i can argue either way, and don't think the question of sin in dreams is improbable.
Jango
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Dreams can be influenced by anything. Whether a movie, a book, a song, and some don't come from anything, they're just weird. We dream almost every night. ( We don't remember most of them, though. )
Avesther
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You only remember dreams that you have just before you wake up. Very weird indeed.
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I only remember dreams that I have just before I wake up...
Meaning that dreams take place before I go to sleep? Or during sleep? See, I was under the impression of the latter, but thanks for reinforcing it by the way, and also...am I remembering it or experiencing it? If it's remembering, when did I experience it?
Well, I think the answer is obvious, Christians: we're reincarnated! See, according to this dude, I remember dreams, but never experience them; so I'm remembering the ones from another life. D'oh! That explains why I see a lot of black in my dreams. I was an earthworm!
Okay, seriously, though.
That makes no sense to me: see, I remember some dreams vividly after waking up, and even write about them at times if they're particularly disturbing. So I'd have to disagree with that statement regarding I only remember dreams just before I wake up...I experience dreams before I wake up (makes sense) and then I remember them after I wake up (more sense!).
Meaning that dreams take place before I go to sleep? Or during sleep? See, I was under the impression of the latter, but thanks for reinforcing it by the way, and also...am I remembering it or experiencing it? If it's remembering, when did I experience it?
Well, I think the answer is obvious, Christians: we're reincarnated! See, according to this dude, I remember dreams, but never experience them; so I'm remembering the ones from another life. D'oh! That explains why I see a lot of black in my dreams. I was an earthworm!
Okay, seriously, though.
That makes no sense to me: see, I remember some dreams vividly after waking up, and even write about them at times if they're particularly disturbing. So I'd have to disagree with that statement regarding I only remember dreams just before I wake up...I experience dreams before I wake up (makes sense) and then I remember them after I wake up (more sense!).
TastyWheat
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Wow, I think you totally misunderstood Peon's last post. He never said you remember dreams just before you wake up...he said exactly what your last sentence says. You may have dreams all night while you sleep, but you tend to remember the ones that happen right before you wake up.
Instead of connecting the words in the sentence like this, which I'm thinking you did:
You only remember dreams just before you wake up.
Try reading the sentence in its entirety, rendering it thus:
You only remember the dreams which you have just before you wake up.
Also, try to be less sarcastically cynical in your posts. It generally just ticks people off.
Instead of connecting the words in the sentence like this, which I'm thinking you did:
You only remember dreams just before you wake up.
Try reading the sentence in its entirety, rendering it thus:
You only remember the dreams which you have just before you wake up.
Also, try to be less sarcastically cynical in your posts. It generally just ticks people off.
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Sarcasm is my trademark. Misinterpretation seconds that. Cynicism ties the two together.
Also, I did stop my jest, amending it with "seriously though". Cut some slack and breathe.
I can only promise an attempt to cut back for you and others. Probably won't happen, but an attempt.
And I still don't get the statement.
Also, I did stop my jest, amending it with "seriously though". Cut some slack and breathe.
I can only promise an attempt to cut back for you and others. Probably won't happen, but an attempt.
And I still don't get the statement.