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Dark Virtue said:Let's go back and look at your post then:
Your two situations are VERY different. One is an accident, the other is when he is fully in control. The hammer incident could have occured when he was alone, the other was when he was in front of his disciples.
You can't compare the two.
Eon said:What I see is an unhealthy and unnatural fixation for nailing people to things and for ensuring that somebody, anybody, feels pain in order to atone for arbitary sins.
Watcher said:He cried out, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34).
Some have puzzled over Jesus' seeming doubt. Was He really afraid? Had His Father truly deserted Him during the hour of His greatest need?
Jesus was quoting the first portion of Psalm 22:1, which was the prophecy of the Messiah's suffering and exaltation.
We forget that Jesus was fully God and fully man. He was subject to all the feelings of mind and body that you and I feel. He spoke those words after three hours of darkness had covered the land. He hung on that cross alone and He took our place feeling the pain and anguish that sin causes.
In that darkness and pain, bearing the burden of our sins, He fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
"Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered Him stricken by God, smitten by Him, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all (Isaiah 53:4-6).
What I see is God's perfect provision. The Lamb of God sent to take away the sin of the world.
Jehovah Jireh!
Dark Virtue said:Thank you for not addressing the point
Would someone, ANYONE, mind coherantly describing Christ's perfection?
What does that MEAN?