Battlegroups

Azzie

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I'm hoping on putting together 5 v 5 world pvp groups. I'd be snuffing myself with a holy handgrenade if this hasnt been tried before.

The concept of "city raids" is, from my experience, is really more like an outdoor npc raid with all the guards...

So what I'm thinking about doing is writing up a post on the stonemaul forums to see if anyone on the horde side is interested in setting up these "battlegroups." With the new cross-server bg's coming up, im worried that its not gonna be too popular, but i hope to give it a try.

The layout of the world pvp "rounds" is simple; 5 v 5 groups, 1st group that wipes loses. Nobody fallen releases spirit until the round is over, since there can be battle-rezzes and soulstones and ankhs to be used. When round is over, the defeated group should be allowed to rez and mana/buff up. When both sides' leaders give a /ready, round 2 begins. This can go on until either side decides to give up. All consumables, cooldowns, and various trinkets are allowed, unlike in duels. The closest thing i can compare this to is the Gurubashi arena, but this is meant to be a lot more organized.

The biggest problem with this is possibly integrity; one side or the other might not be "honorable" as to properly wait for the other side to rez up if their side wins. There should be ways to communicate with the opposite faction.
Another problem is gear difference; its not gonna be any show if 5 tier 2's come along against 5 60's in greens. Im thinking that maybe there should be a gear requirement, like at least a rank 10/tier 0.5 set should be had for attending these.

I think this is how WoW pvp was meant to be. as many blizzard posters and players alike have agreed, WoW pvp balance is based around group pvp. Wsg and AB are good and all, but playing capture the flag really doesnt have that "war" feel, as the name "warcraft" should have. henceforth, organized outdoor battles is an idea i have and hope to make true.
 
Its been tried...it works only so long as there is interest. I remember when I just first transferred to Stonemaul, a 2v2 and 5v5 battle competition was held in Gurabashi arena.
 
I'd be interested in participating in this however, I'm afriad of going up against 5 ppl from the Warlord group...or worse UE ><.

Finding equally geared people to against each other will be the most difficult part to organize.

As for communication, we can have a priest MC someone and do /e...or we can join the stonemaul mIRC channel or the stonemaul vent server or any vent server for that matter.
 
Azzie said:
Wsg and AB are good and all, but playing capture the flag really doesnt have that "war" feel, as the name "warcraft" should have. henceforth, organized outdoor battles is an idea i have and hope to make true.
Azzie, may I present the wit and wisdom of Penny Arcade? I think you will find that particular comic enjoyable.
 
Yucke said:
I'd be interested in participating in this however, I'm afriad of going up against 5 ppl from the Warlord group...or worse UE ><.

Finding equally geared people to against each other will be the most difficult part to organize.

As for communication, we can have a priest MC someone and do /e...or we can join the stonemaul mIRC channel or the stonemaul vent server or any vent server for that matter.

My thoughts exactly...i was thinking about making gear brackets, but I feel that's way too hard to organize.
 
Sassperilla said:
Im all for it i need to PvP alot anyway for honor

Sadly, if it's honor you need your place will best be the battlegrounds. This idea of mine is for those that are sick of the constant grinds in the bg's.

Each round is only going to give you at most 5-6 honor kills (about 1000 honor) with each round giving half the amount of the former due to diminishing returns. And mind you, if you actually get 5-6 honor kills it's because your team WINS, which may not happen all the time.

So, all in all, in one full "war" you'll get at most 5-6k honor. For the time involved, it's much more honor-efficient just to do a single alterac valley.
 
Also, about the honor part, the honor you get per kill is divied up amongst your party members.
 
What about Dishonor kills? How would the Battlegroup prevent them? I would be intrested to join - it should probably be best if the Stonemaul vent was used.
 
Odale said:
What about Dishonor kills? How would the Battlegroup prevent them? I would be intrested to join - it should probably be best if the Stonemaul vent was used.

Battlegroups fight in outdoor plains, not cities.

I had access to the stonemaul vent when I ran bg's with Icthus and Firesong, but just recently I think the server changed locations, so I'll have to look for that sometime.

EDIT: I'm gonna post a video on class guides that shows exactly what I'm talking about
 
Sooo, we got Yucke, Sassy, Odale, and myself interested.

Seems like a group from Fallen is interested too, but as we all can figure they're gonna sweep us over with their gear. But thats ok; im sure we can adjust some things.

Anyway, for those interested, I would like to know the times you're available, and I'm sure the others in Stonemaul would like to know too. If you can, please post on the thread I started here:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-stonemaul&t=216610&p=1&tmp=1#post216610
 
Tek7 said:
I would participate with Ulfbrikt if being level 60 wasn't a requirement. :(

This is why I was thinking about making brackets of some sort. Perhaps level wise we can make them the same as how the Bg's do it.

Level 60, however, means very little when compared to the gear 60's can have.

Logoss's group (Bum, Nikky, Enteradent (sp) and Devilsfist) are fully decked out in tier 2. Regardless of how skilled our players in Redeemed are, if we don't get somewhat near the gear they have, we will get steamrolled.

Because of this I was thinking of these brackets:
1) Levels 11-19
2) Levels 21-29
3) Levels 31-39
4) Levels 41-49
5) Levels 51-59
6) Random gear 60s-tier 0.5
7) Rank 10/Tier 1
8) Rank 13/tier 2 +
 
Azzie said:
This is why I was thinking about making brackets of some sort. Perhaps level wise we can make them the same as how the Bg's do it.

Level 60, however, means very little when compared to the gear 60's can have.

Logoss's group (Bum, Nikky, Enteradent (sp) and Devilsfist) are fully decked out in tier 2. Regardless of how skilled our players in Redeemed are, if we don't get somewhat near the gear they have, we will get steamrolled.

Because of this I was thinking of these brackets:
1) Levels 11-19
2) Levels 21-29
3) Levels 31-39
4) Levels 41-49
5) Levels 51-59
6) Random gear 60s-tier 0.5
7) Rank 10/Tier 1
8) Rank 13/tier 2 +

You might think about this too much......
 
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