Atheists Contradictions.

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Quote[/b] (ByblosHex @ Oct. 15 2004,10:37)]You got me... I guess I couldnt say when I was born. But WHen I was 5 I could have very well disbellieved.

You can never understand the nature of God. He is infinite our brains limited.
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Now you have totally backtracked.

First one was cognizant as a baby, then as a child, then never, since God is infinite.

I don't think that you, or any child of the age of five could understand the notion of an omnimax.

I think that, just now, at your present age, you are just now BEGINNING to understand. You are just NOW beginning to truly, actually, logically formulate your ideas.

THAT is why I don't believe you were truly an atheist prior to your conversion. You didn't, you DON'T, understand what it means to be an atheist.
 
No. you are wrong. All of this knowing and logic is nonsesnse. Like Jesus said the understanding of a Child is thea greatest in the kingdom oh heaven. I dont care if I learn any more of this world or its logic.
 
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Quote[/b] (ByblosHex @ Oct. 15 2004,11:24)]No. you are wrong. All of this knowing and logic is nonsesnse. Like Jesus said the understanding of a Child is thea greatest in the kingdom oh heaven. I dont care if I learn any more of this world or its logic.
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Christians believe that the most wonderful thing that can happen to them is to go to Heaven, but few of them are in a hurry to make the trip.
-Anonymous

What is nonsensicle about logic?

Since you understand things so much better than I do, please explain what this verse means:

Matthew 18
3 And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

If you don't care to learn anything, then why are you participating in these conversations?
 
That quote is true. We are not in ahurry because we will go there when God wills us to.

Logic and sense on this planet are both temporary.

If you stay like you are looking for proof instead of being like a child to his father you will never be saved.

Im not here to learn him here to perform my duty.
 
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Quote[/b] (ByblosHex @ Oct. 15 2004,11:53)]That quote is true. We are not in ahurry because we will go there when God wills us to.

Logic and sense on this planet are both temporary.

If you stay like you are looking for proof instead of being like a child to his father you will never be saved.

Im not here to learn him here to perform my duty.
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How are you supposed to perform His duty if you do not learn what His duty is?
 
I am performing MY duty not God's Duty... my duty is God's will, and God's Will is for me to speak his word to the unbeliever.
 
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Quote[/b] (The Penguin Slayer @ Oct. 15 2004,7:01)]1.  There are no absolutes.
When you hear this statement there are many ways you can make the stater (is that a word) look foolish, but that statement is a contradiction to itself, merely because it is a statement.  To be atheisticly (there are two types of grammer, correct and mine) correct, you must say, "it is my oppinion that there are no absolutes."  The reason is because a statement must be true or false absolutely.

2.  There is no right or wrong, it depends on the person.
If there is no right or wrong, then why do atheists get frusterated when they are told about biblical morality.  If morality depends on the person, then it can't be wrong for Christians to tell them what the Biblical role model is (and judge them is they would say.)

3. There is no truth.
Aside from the fact that Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life.  To say this you must be lying, because it can't be true, based on the fact that there is no truth.

These are the ones I could think of at the moment, if you know anymore, tell me, or if you disagree.
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You assume far too much Penguin.

1. I am not sure what you mean by 'absolutes,' as this is a very nebulous statement, but to say that atheists do not believe in anything that is absolute is folly. For instance, many mathamtical and scientific truths, are so absolutely.

2. Not all atheists believe in subjective and relative morallity. I for one believe in objective morallity. For more info on this, read my morallity thread. You are assuming that morallity comes only from god, but this just is not so.

3. There is no truth? Give me a break.
 
Ah, ok.

Didn't you have to learn at ONE point in time? Did this information suddenly appear in your head? How does one determine when one reaches the apex of knowledge?
 
I learned all I neeed to learn within the instant I was saved.. and What is rewuired to understand even a child can udnerstand.

All I ever needed to know was I was a sinner saved by grace.
 
I see.

So in that instant of discovery, you also understood that no more study is needed?

Do you believe that other Christians were called the same way as you and that they hold the same notions about study?
 
Called the same way? Well sure, they decided they want Jesus to take the wheel.

Study isnt needed after that, afterthat moment I am permenantly secure.
 
Since an atheist does not believe in God due to lack of evidence, how does an atheist believe in anything that he has not personally experience?

<genuinely curious on this>
 
Germs can be seen using instruments and can be investigated. They are affected by physical events and are measurable. God isn't.
 
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Quote[/b] ]Since an atheist does not believe in God due to lack of evidence, how does an atheist believe in anything that he has not personally experience?

<genuinely curious on this>
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The thing is, ANYTHING can be put up to God. I know people say genuine miracles have taken place, but oftentimes, thinking about it, too much is put up to miracles too easily.

I'm not a bitter cynical person. I find it easier to understand the mathmatical principles behind physics and chemistry than an all-powerful being capable of everything. We know about atoms and electrons and such like because applying them to everyday life makes sense. Such as why combustion of certain chemicals creats another different one. The rules for that make sense.
 
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Quote[/b] ]Then how can they not believe in God?
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Because there is no evidence, reason, logic or proof that would lead one to the believe in a god.

Why do theists beleive in gods? FAITH. The belief in something WITHOUT evidence.
 
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