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Atown

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ok 1st off what do mormans do for christmas?? and 2, the Bible talks about The lambs book of life and also in rev it talks about all the people in the book of life bieng judged again for all their sins. now i believe there is a difrence between the Lambs book of life and the book of life but i cant find enough facts that will support that assumption so any of u have any good ideas or facts?
 
I have no idea what LDS followers do for Christmas.

Please, point out the exact scripture in Revelations you are talking about. Because, I don't recall ever reading about all those who have put their faith in Christ and have been forgiven and washed of their sins being judged a second time.
 
I don't know what mormon's do for Christmas. We might wish to ask Elihu.

that's the great white throne judgement. when all of our works will be thrown into a great fire and purified for our reward. It's not a judgement per se, but rather a reward disbursment based upon our works.
 
srry forgot to mention that it talks bout that stuff in rev 19-21 thats the main part. and my Bible translation says judgement so who knows on that. and srry for mistyping Christmas i got a new computer and a new keyboard and im still not use to the difrent size in keyboard.
 
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Quote[/b] ]Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
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This is something I had read about that particular passage:


The judgment of condemnation. If people are not listed in the Book of Life, then they are judged according to his works. It is doubtful that believers (whose names are written in the Book of Life) even stand before this throne; though our works will be judged for reward's sake (Romans 14:10; 2 Corinthians 5:10). Those who refuse to come to God by faith will, by default, be judged (and condemned) by their works. "The issue is not salvation by works but works as the irrefutable evidence of a man's actual relationship with God."

This is not a trial, trying to determine what the facts are. The facts are in; here is the sentencing of someone already condemned. "Their standing posture means that they are now about to be sentenced." There are degrees of punishment for unbelievers, according to their works (Matthew 11:20-24).

Why does the sea give up its dead? It represents the place of unburied bodies; the emphasis is on the universal character of judgment - everybody is included.

Hope it helps,

Cory
 
eh kinda, not really i see the passage but that, says nothing of the lambs book of life, and i cant find enough scripter that tells the difrence between the books. now according to ur post it says all of the dead people in the book of life are gonna be condemd and whatnot. now as christians we are already forgiven and should be resting comfterably in heaven with no wrrys.
 
I think you misread what I typed Atown. The people in the Book of Life are not judged by their works.

As for the Lambs book of Life and the Book of Life, they could be different or they could be the same. Only God knows. You could also ask why you would need leaves of healing falling from the Tree of Life if there is no pain or suffering in New Jeruselem. Revelations is a confusing book isn't it
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Cory
 
oops i did misread. wnd where in the bible does it talk bout a tree of life??
 
Revelations 22:1-2
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Quote[/b] ]Then he showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
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Cory
 
Atown, just wondering why at the age of 14 you are reading Rev.

It is one of the most cryptic books of the Bible because of the tenses of verbs and everything in greek how it is constantly changing, ect ,ect ect. this is why Rev is a senior class at OCC ( as i have been told).

Really i am not trying to discourage you, but try to read something that may be a little more prudent to you, bind the Word of the Lord to your heart so that the young mans ways may be right, and Just before the Lord.

Just a suggestions read more of the Old Testiment and study that, i have found in just 1 semester at College that churchs now adays for the most part ignore the OT, which is the very foundation to our faith, do you want to have a strong capstone, or a strong shingle?
 
That post somewhat suprises me. I'm 15 and I've read Revelations a few times and while it is criptic and difficult to understand it is something that Christians should have a basic knowledge of, the events mentioned may take place in our lifetimes. But I do agree with some of what you said. Concentrating on reading Revelations at the exclusion of other books is not a good idea a varied reading of the Bible is very important.

Cave Troll
 
well for me i got bored with the rest of the Bible and rev hasnt been somethin ive read. now i have almost read the entire ot but like 3 minor prophets still remain. i should auctually study the Bible, and i plan too with my new Bible i got for Christmas. another thing though is im a fast reader yet i tend to miss things but i very much dislike having to read things over n over again so thats somethin i need to work on as well
 
The Old Testament bores me to tears when I read it...Genesis and the prophets are about what I can stand. "And the son of Elihu son of Tophaz son of Minisha son of Garumn, King Under the Mountain, did go until Samuel, son of Gad, son of Naphon, son of Asher, son of Asphanaz, who slew a lion with a dagger at the Mountains of Madness...
Yeah it bugs me. the New Testament is about the revelation of Jesus Christ, while the OT points to the coming of Christ. I prefer strengthening myself with the works and words of those followers directly of Christ, hence the NT.
The tree of life was also the tree in the Garden of Eden (check out Genesis). Also the tree of life by the river in Revelation, and the Book of Life is the Lamb's Book of Life, for Christ is the Lamb, and Christ was revealed at last, and John received from Christ the Revelation. So. Book of LIfe and Lamb's Book are one and the same.
Instance: Hebrew=children of God.
 
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Quote[/b] (Atown @ Dec. 25 2003,10:09)]2, the Bible talks about The lambs book of life and also in rev it talks about all the people in the book of life bieng judged again for all their sins. now i believe there is a difrence between the Lambs book of life and the book of life but i cant find enough facts that will support that assumption so any of u have any good ideas or facts?
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2. Going off what I learned, the way it breaks down is like this:

Christians are taken up in the rapture. While the tribulation is going on on earth, they are judged.

After 7 years, Jesus returns to earth, beats down the antichrist & false prophet, and establishes the New Jerusalem, and rules the Earth for 1000 years.

He then judges everyone who has not previously been judged at the White Throne Judgement. Obviously most people there will be thrown into the lake of fire. As I was taught, people will be born during the millenium, and there is the possibility that they may or may not be saved.

Hope that helps.
 
Well, yeah, at the end of the millennial reign Satan is unleashed for Armageddon's purpose, so there is still a chance for people to choose God or not. And what's funny is that at that last fateful moment of alliances, they have zero freaking excuses for ignoring Christ in favor of Satan. They damn themselves alone at the end. If it comes.
 
IF??? u dont have believe it'll come?? and im still not sure cuz other scribture makes it unclear
 
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