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Aduro Amnis, since when did you have to accept the Nicene creed to be Christian?

Yeah, I know the popular estimates that date the writings of the gospels and other major books. But when claims were made of 1000 plus greek Bibles, they were in reference to an actual Bible, no? Well, I'm asking what sort of Bible they were, what frame of time these Bibles came from, what...

Before I respond, Master~Plan, I seek clarification. 30 (to 100) years after the first Bible was penned? When was the first Bible penned?

Okay, but I don't understand what you mean by 'uniqueness of history.' I don't mean to get into a debate, but I think that the authenticity of Homer's works isn't questioned because they don't claim to be authoritive; they are literary works. Also, I don't see how the widespread nature or...

You make some interesting points, but all rely on the supernatural existing, your God being the true God, the Bible being God's book and God being unwilling to let man change his book. Not that there's anything wrong with that; we all have to make some assuptions, otherwise we couldn't say...

Yeah - Scientology claims that drugs and phychiatrists are evil, probably because they offer better explanations and assistance to the people Scientology deals with. I love the way Hubbard would randomly write a book containing psydo-science garbage that appeals to peoples' more base feelings...

Well, good luck finding an objective source. I doubt you'll find one at http://www.scientology.org/, though. The person responsible for the website is by no means responsible for all the content - and I believe that most of the content is written by people who were involved in the CoS for many...

Any reason why?

Operation Clambake is a good resource. Scientology Illustrated is a great introduction. My understanding was that they claim 8 million worldwide members but have only around 10 000.

Before you go asking this of other people, please give a source for this: A team? Research department of something?

Even I'm farily confident that the Bible is real. I have one on my shelf, right here.

Then if the conscience works in that way, what's going on with people who have defective consciences? I don't mean people who choose to do something they know is wrong, but people who are unable to distinguish between right and wrong.

Are you saying that the conscience of people who haven't accepted the Holy Spirit is really something that floats alongside of them and whispers their ears? Is that what the conscience of an atheist is? Was that how the Ancient Greek conscience operated?

If you all think that video games are a bit iffy, then why are you playing them?

You don't dream all night. You dream for a brief period of time just after you go to sleep, and just before you wake up.

That depends on what you think the conscience is, Atown. Animals have a conscience of sorts, I think, though not internalised in the same way as humans.

How can the Holy Spirit be one's conscience when people who reject or haven't even heard of the Holy Spirit have a conscience?

A] Have you seen/met Jesus/God in person? No. B] Have they talked back to you? No. C] How does God look like? By imagination or belief? Since most people don't even claim to have seen him physically, it would be by imagination. Well, that describes how people percieve him. How he actually...

Tab goes to forum index link picture at the top of the page. Whether or not this is true, it's moot if you're trying to argue for or against banning abortion.