Happy HAM DAY?

Just to weigh in, pork is not inherently carcinogenic.

However, pigs are very violent creatures, and so have a tendancy to ruin each other's meat. What does this have to do with anything?

Well, farmers simply drug the pigs to make them docile. The drugs are carcinogenic to humans. The farmers are supposed to cut them off of the drugs several weeks before slaughtering them to make sure that they don't have any of the drug left in their meat -- but not all farmers are honest when it comes to risking a lower-quality product.

Generally, pork should be carcinogen-free. But human nature dictates that it is still a risk.


Oh, and eating raw pork meat is just asking for trouble. It's similar to eating raw chicken or raw lamb.
 
I'd say God knew what He was talking about when He said "pigs are unclean". ;) (After reading Neirai's post)
 
I believe some of God's dietary and lifestyle laws were established for health reasons. Others we know were for spiritual reasons. However, I believe it's entirely possible others were given specifically to make God's people DIFFERENT, so they would stand out from the crowd. I do not know where the pig/shellfish laws fit in.

*Disclaimer: My opinion*
If all the previously-unclean foods were that bad for us, would God REALLY have MADE Peter eat them, and encouraged His people to eat them to make the Gentiles more comfortable in the Church? It seems that if God knew they were really bad for us, He would still be telling us to stay away from it. After all, He has spoken out in BOTH Testaments against drunkenness.
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However, my point here isn't about HAM itself; it's about such a blatant disrespect for the deeply held religious beliefs of literally millions of members of their target audience. After all, it's not the Muslims and Jews who will eat their product anyway, much less observe Easter. It's Christians and Christian-influenced individuals. Is it really SMART to promote their RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY as being all about your product? Doesn't seem so to me. I hope this backfires on them in a big way; they certainly deserve it. I intend to write a letter to the president of the corporation. SOMEONE, at least, will read it.


Lazarus:
On the subject of the Fish: it's the only Christian music I can pick up in the house. So it's either the Fish or secular radio in the mornings. I choose the Fish.
 
MM - you think that vision Peter had was encouraging him to eat unclean food?
It never mentions that - I thought the whole point of the vision was that the Gentiles were no longer unclean.
 
Acts 10:9-20 NLT said:
The next day as Cornelius’s messengers were nearing the town, Peter went up on the flat roof to pray. It was about noon, and he was hungry. But while a meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw the sky open, and something like a large sheet was let down by its four corners. In the sheet were all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds. Then a voice said to him, “Get up, Peter; kill and eat them.”

“No, Lord,” Peter declared. “I have never eaten anything that our Jewish laws have declared impure and unclean.”

But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.” The same vision was repeated three times. Then the sheet was suddenly pulled up to heaven.

Peter was very perplexed. What could the vision mean? Just then the men sent by Cornelius found Simon’s house. Standing outside the gate, they asked if a man named Simon Peter was staying there.

Meanwhile, as Peter was puzzling over the vision, the Holy Spirit said to him, “Three men have come looking for you. Get up, go downstairs, and go with them without hesitation. Don’t worry, for I have sent them.”
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The NIV adds to this quote "all kinds of four-legged animals" which would imply pigs.

God definitely encourages Peter to eat unclean foods in the vision, and also tells Peter that he has declared the food to be clean. It is largely on the basis of this passage that modern Christians believe that we can eat non-kosher foods.

Pretty good thing too, based on the fact that I love pizza.
 
Acts 10:28 "And he said to them, 'You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him, and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean.
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Now... where exactly did Peter explain that he figured out the vision also meant it was all right to eat unclean animals?

Although... meh. Nvm.
 
I did read it. Neirai made a ton of assumptions about that passage, imo.

God didn't say that all food was now clean, he didn't encourage Peter to eat unclean food, and Peter didn't even interpret it that way. :rolleyes:
 
It seemed fairly obvious to Peter(as he expressed) that God showed him that vision to illustrate that Gentiles were no longer "unclean" and could also be saved through the Gospel.

Acts 11: 34. "And opening his mouth, Peter said: I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality.
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The next day as Cornelius’s messengers were nearing the town, Peter went up on the flat roof to pray. It was about noon, and he was hungry. But while a meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw the sky open, and something like a large sheet was let down by its four corners. In the sheet were all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds. Then a voice said to him, “Get up, Peter; kill and eat them.”

“No, Lord,” Peter declared. “I have never eaten anything that our Jewish laws have declared impure and unclean.”

But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.” The same vision was repeated three times. Then the sheet was suddenly pulled up to heaven.

Peter was very perplexed. What could the vision mean? Just then the men sent by Cornelius found Simon’s house. Standing outside the gate, they asked if a man named Simon Peter was staying there.

Meanwhile, as Peter was puzzling over the vision, the Holy Spirit said to him, “Three men have come looking for you. Get up, go downstairs, and go with them without hesitation. Don’t worry, for I have sent them.”
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Are you sure??
 
Paul's teaching on meat offered to idols (in 1 Corinthians) might be an helpful passage of Scripture in this discussion.
 
Tek7 said:
Paul's teaching on meat offered to idols (in 1 Corinthians) might be an helpful passage of Scripture in this discussion.
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I was totally just going to post that. I just finished reading Corinthians, so it's fresh in my mind!

1 Corinthians 10:25-26
25
Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,
26
for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
 
*is hit on the head by an iguana tail*
OW!

Stuff like this just makes me realize all the more how salvation obviously can't rest on whether you do or don't observe food laws(and alot of other issues aswell).
 
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