SATURDAY 40 MAN RAIDS

Avesther

Avesther

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Due to lack of attendance, there will no longer be any saturday 40 man raids. The only day available for 40 man raids is Friday, if we can't take Rag down on Friday, he doesn't go down. BWL is on hold until MC is on farm status and everybody has their MC gear so that we can switch from doing MC on fridays to doing BWL on fridays.
 
What about trying the plan again of clearing a few bosses earlier in the week so we have the most time to kill rag on friday? I think the first few bosses would be easy enough to get a group together for another night of the week maybe?
 
its hard for west coast people to get off work and get ready much earlier than we do, I know Lara has a hard time getting home in time now until the time change goes into effect for daylight savings time, Arizona doesnt change so we will be an hour ahead of server time when it does happen. I try to get home as early as possible on friday anyway too:)
 
We really can't be doing to much earlier in the week, as it stands alot of people want to start doing BWL and we have no days available to do it. And if we start doing say:

Tuesday: Luci\Mag
Wednesday: Gehannas\Garr
Thursday: BWL Wipe night
Friday: Geddon to Rag
Saturday\Sunday: 20 man raids
Monday: Onyxia.

Thats a lot of raid nights, and no time in between for doing needed farming for mats and gold.
 
How long does it usually take us to go to mag? would it be worth it to just do that leg of MC one night then when we come in friday just make our run to rag? it doesnt take that long so maybe it wouldnt be worth it but it might also shave an hour off our MC run so that gets us another hour of time to get to rag, any time savings would be better on friday since some people like Mav have work and others it just gets too late
 
Since there will be no more 40 man raids on Saturday until further notice, is there any chance of getting one Pally, one Priest, one Warlock, and one Rogue to help me with my epic mount quest next Saturday? :)
 
This past raid I wrote down every time from start to finish, boss pulls, loot end times. I left it at work but I will post it for us soon. It was interesting to see how it unfolded and was definitely our fastest run yet.

Regardless, we showed that we can get a pull in on rag starting on our normal time on a Friday.

Each week we add 20-30 more epics into the mix. Very very soon, we will be doing the first 9 bosses in under 4 hours and have all the time on Rag we want.
 
thats what I was thinking too, plus flying back, repairing, running back and rebuffing, an hour might be just enough to get us a better chance of keeping the core raid together for good attempts on Rag too.
 
Thursdays FTW

How about starting MC on Thursdays (we had quite a few show up for BWL last thursday) and then Friday night, most people are on to do MC so then it could be the new day to do Rag or Domo.

yes, no, maybe so?
 
if we cant get more people willing to come to BWL to wipe with us then lets not worry about it. More people will come to a quick 1-1.5 hour MC run thats on farm status already during the week so we can free up some time for a better attempt at rag on friday. After we get rag on farm and consintantly down him we can make MC one night then work on BWL.
 
Young -- we've always had trouble on Saturdays. As it stands, we'd have no trouble at all getting TO Domo on Saturday, but enough important raiders don't show up that getting past Domo would be a lot harder.

It's not that we'll never be able to do it on Saturday, but if we can't do it on Friday with the main group (who have been getting most of the gear), the Saturday is going to be a big stretch.
 
Young said:
How does one Saturday Raid give us a conclusion of no success??
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Historically, Saturday is bad for signups. Its not just this saturday past, but all of them in the past. People who signed up didn't come, people who are experienced didn't sign up. The people who did come, bless their hearts, are not geared nor experienced for a Domo \ Rag fight. They are better off starting with Luci \ Mag. They are less gear dependant then Domo is. Satuday, even with a full 40, we hit the exact same problem we did a month ago. Get some adds down then the priests are out of mana because we have to heal people whos gear are not helping them survive more then one or two hits and the DPS just wasn't there to kill the mobs fast enough. Bringing bodies just to fill spots on a domo\rag fight is just bad strategy. It works fine on Luci and Mag.

To this end, I've come up with an idea: Bannards Beginner MC. It will be a MC run for new to 60, new to MC people and for our main team's alts. (we will still need some experienced MC people to sign up to make this work) It will only be Lucifron and Magmaddar fights. It will take approx. 1.5 hours, happen on a week night and is considered a learning run. That is, we will take the time to explain trash and peoples roles in it. We will take the time to explain boss fights and peoples roles in it. Eventually, as the main teams need for gear off the early bosses diminishes, the further into MC Team Infinity will go. This will leave fewer and fewer bosses for Team Eternity to complete on Friday on their push to Rag. Eventually, Team Infinity will take over MC and the main push of Team Eternity will move into BWL.
 
That is a neat idea and makes a lot of sense. We just have to let people on TI know that they must expect what TE had to go through. Wiping on bosses and even trash for that matter. They can't go into it expecting to have the same results the Friday team has.

I also think we need to continue to respect the Friday nights. Many people (myself included) take great pains to keep their Friday available for consistent raiding. We come home from work early, get rid of the family and pass on social events to be there every Friday. For many, Friday is the only day they can commit too and all other days are bonus.

So we need to take that into account as well, as this plan does. It has Friday being the domo/rag crew and eventually BWL. It puts the newer to MC players on another day of the week which is fine since they have not made arrangements to raid on Fridays for months and months now.

Good plan, I vote for it.
 
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