You're a woman CCGR? Wow. I always, uh, thought you were a guy.
Well, not if you were stuck on an island with Jews...j/k.
Okay Mustard. I got a bone to pick with that post you slapped down: We do not cling to sexist traditions. Listen, we don't know what the Jews of four thousand years ago did. We don't know what the original laws God laid down, if any, for Adam's era. Times change, as do things. The Jews, if any of you non-Christians who love to twist our words and Scripture against us, loved the Law to the point of placing it before God, but never realizing it, thinking they were doing God's will in living the Law. God gave us the Law to follow, right? He said as much as Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ himself says, "For God did not send His Son into this world to condemn it, but that the world through Him may be saved." Somewhere else he mentions the fulfillment of the Law: he is it. And he also summarizes all the laws that the Jews worshipped into two: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your soul," and "Love your neighbor as yourself." Keeping those two meant you would keep all 6,537,319,816 laws the Jews kept themselves busy with. If any Jews take offense, oh well. That's just an estimate. The Noadic Jews have over 600 laws, and get this: NOAH WASN'T A JEW! There were no such things as Jews back in those days! Geez Loweez!
Women were made to be a companion to man, to love him, honor him, blah blah. To help him. Not to fight with him, and not for men to beat into submission. Those are the two general sides that feminists take up: men dominate and women are forced into submission. Stupid. No. It's true, but it's not what God set up. He set up woman as man's assistant and companion, and man as her companion and uh, well, assistant as well, in a sense.
Nero's freak mom comes into mind with that last post Eon. And Paul was a Roman citizen, a fact he used at least twice to get himself out of trouble with the Roman law when the Jews tried to kill him. But if you also read the Bible, you would know that Paul was a Jew of Jews, a Pharisee. He lived the Law to the letter. And that included punishing those who said they were God. That was blasphemy. Jesus Christ came out and said in so many words, "Yo homes! I'm the Son of God." GASP! Stone the heathen! or, as it ended up: Crucify! Crucify!
Paul's origins may have been Roman in citizenship, but he was Jewish in culture: there is no freaking way the Jews would allow a Gentile to be a Pharisee: to do so would be a sin against the law of God. The Law, the Law. That's all the Jews worried about.
Also Eon, Timothy wasn't wrong: it was Paul who wrote to Timothy. So if anyone was wrong, it was Paul, as appears to be the general agreement of the feminist supporters here.
And I do believe that man is in a sense superior in ways to women, and women superior to men as well in certain ways. Men are aggressive. Admit it, even the wusses. We're all aggressive. The women however are softer and gentler and more sensitive, a lot more emotional. Men hide their feelings with ease. I do. No one can tell when I'm mad, angry, hateful, sad, happy, fine, okay, bad, terrible, raging, joking, sarcastic, cynical, serious, depressed, nothing. I hide it so well behind a mask. It's easy for me: it happens automatically.
Mustard: Christians do not strap women to the beds and dominate them or shout "Stone the harlot!" when we see a woman's leg exposed. We usually see one of three things on women: kinda clothed, hardly clothed or not clothed. The Islams have their women wrapped up in robes. And if you knew anything, you would also know that the Islams are shocked that we have pornography and scantily clad women all across America. It's a shock to them. It's a sin to expose the body in such ways. We may oppose women ministers: that doesn't mean we're sexist! That just means we don't agree/believe in it! I don't and I would feel completely uncomfortable in such a situation.
While God did not tell the Jews, "And women shall be treated as animals" and "Thus says the Lord: And women shall have no place in my Temple." NO! NO NO NO! God never said such a thing, such a relative thing. It is in no way divine. But, he strictly said this: the teachers of the Law (Levites (Pharisees and Sadducees) are all men! God made man in his image. He did not make women in his own image. He made women kinda in the image of man, and not directly from his own image. Read Genesis again if you can't handle that. God did not say, "And let us create woman in our own image." He said "man."
Men treat women as less than men, and since the teachers of the Law and the priests of God are all male, it is understandable that we carry on that tradition that men alone preach the Word of God.
Ensign Fine Megan came to my school on Monday and said her feelings of women in the military: she did not approve of it for several reasons. And SHE's an ensign in the Navy! That tells you something. With the rise of feminism and equality, then, in the case that women bawl to be able to preach in Church, let us then do this: make them equal with men, completely. If they get pregnant and can't get to work, dock their pay, make them work overtime. How do they get pregnant? Hmm. Through sex. Men and women alike do that, however, men aren't usually hampered by it, unless they get a disease from it. Then they, uh, either get better in a long time or never get better. Women want equality? Then they better be ready to be fired for not showing up at work for a long time. Women want equality? Then they'd better not expect men to hold doors open and compliment them on their dresses. They're to go out at war, pregnant or not, and be expected to kill the enemy.
Women don't want equality: they want what can make them feel good about themselves, so they whine for a little for equality, thus equalling better pay in managing positions but lawsuits if they're docked for being pregnant on the basis of sexual profiling.
No, my friends. Women want equality when it's in their favor. Otherwise, let the men have it all.
And the army is strict about women in the infantry: a big fat emphatic NO! For one, women distract men most times, and another, the enemy, as the Israelis found out, fights a whole lot harder to win if women are in the front lines, because they definitely don't want to be humiliated and have to say, "DANGIT! We lost to women!"
If women want to be in the Church, let them bring their lawsuits against God.
And if we want to argue about cultural roots, then we can fight over this: where do we get the idea that man can't kill fellow men? Self-conscience? Random laws some old guys with wigs living in the 1700s thought up and put them down as our constitutional law? No. Where did they get that from? They got it from, gasp, the Bible! Cultural roots anyone? Why is it that Intel would get mad if I stole their supercomputers and all data on it? Why? Cause it's a law! No theft or else. ANd where did that come from? Farmer Bob? NO! It came from the Bible!
Comments? I expect a slough.