-Jad-
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Hello all;
Many of you have been wondering what has been going on.. and unfortunately some people have been saying things that were not true but, presenting them as truth’s . For any and all panic and worry that this has all caused I am truly Sorry.
The issues at hand have been going on long before the demotions that were seen in game, and for the longest time I have been reluctant to talk about it too much due to the fact that it entailed happenings that were of a personal nature and I didn’t think that should be aired for all to see. But since some of those involved have made comments in public forums that were not true Im going to let you all know what has lead to where we are now.
Weeks ago I was approached by some guildies ( I will leave their names out for personal reasons) some officers and some not. About an issue they had with Mordos. The issues ranged from being treated by him in a disrespectful way, feeling that they were being intimidated in game, having things said to them in a hurtful/argumentative manner and abuse of power. As with all complaints I tried to gather information on what was being said (getting the facts from their side of the story) so I could approach Mordos with the complaints to see what he had to say and see if there was any merit to the complaints. I have always been Fair and impartial. Prior to talking with Mordos I talked with the other GL’s (Tree and Bill) because We as a “Trinity” leadership make decisions and decide how to approach things as a group… ( No Officer Channel Conspiracy as certain individuals have dubbed it). It was decided to be simple and approach Mordos and say “hey this is what has been told to us… what’s your side” so we did.
Now in Mordos’ defense he was unaware of some of the issues being brought forward.. therefore the was no way he could address them… We as Christians have a way to “ file a grienvance” against someone.. it is found in the book of Matthew 18:15-17
15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
If you don’t got to a person that is causing you an issue they can’t fix it.
After Mordos was confronted with this he started having some deep feelings about how his raid style carried over to how people thought of him (mean, intimidating, rude, ect. ect) in general. It was at this point he felt that scripturally and spiritually that if that is what he does because of raiding then he didn’t want to lead raids. ( Not what I wanted to hear but, I respect his view and his wishes) Both Tree and I told him to think about that and pray before HE decided to step down ( again that is not what anyone wanted Mordos is an awesome raid leader and I have said that time and time again)
Now fast forward to Monday night. We raided EoE 25 man and then after some difficulty we moved to Os 25man. It was during the first moments during the OS raid that I was getting bombarded with whispers from some guildies as to why someone wasn’t invited to the raid.. cause the raid was not full.. I then asked Mordos if this person was on a raid suspension that I didn’t know about and I got no answer.. I then asked Gobby is this person on a Raid suspension she said I don’t know “so an so” ( name left out) said he was… Well at that point I told Gobby that since the raid was not full and he was the only one on the list to invite this person to the raid. I would rather invite the person so they could raid that night and find out after all that he was on suspension than find out we “guild leadership” dropped the ball and because we did that person didn’t get in.. ( I have ALWAYS tried to keep things fair for all people even at the expense of not being like among all) after a few pulls I got a whisper from Mordos that stated “demote me now please please” after I received that I did the “..please please” to me was an indicator that this was really not something he wanted anymore… so I did it there on the spot.. This is a game and I do not want this game to be any hardship or distress to anyone at any time. As soon as I did that I got a whisper from Gobby that said “me too” I didn’t get back to her because not only were we in the middle of one of the Drake fights, I was getting whispers from other people… It was then when I recived Gobby’s second whisper that stated “ demote me too please” when I had time I did.
I would like to go on record that, that night was very hard for me I just had two people who I considered friends step away from something that they loved to do for reasons that they apparenty were under stress or hurt from… Both Gobby and Mordos have done a lot for this guild Mordos has done some pretty amazing things with us in raiding and Gobby has always done fun events that make us all laugh and enjoy each other’s company.
After the raid that night I promoted Samboe to head raid leader. I did not do this out of disrespect or anger to Mordos, I did it in the attempt to keep things going for Redeemed as Raiding is what it likes to do and give Samboe the tools and in game functions that he need to do so while we sorted this whole thing out.. I made this promotion on a Temporary basis we needed someone to fill Mordos’ position while we figured out what was gonna happen next… It was my hopes that it would give Mordos some time to cool down. That evening I told samboe in vent that this would be temporary and that WE needed his help till we figured things out.
This.. is what happened.. No Conspiracy or plots by by the officers
This Incident happened because some people came to me and the other guild leads with and issue ( although they could have resolved it with Mordos first but some felt intimidated and non the less.. they came to us for help) and I and the guild leads attempted to address it.
again I'm Sorry that this is a little late but i wanted to make sure that I could give you all what happened without having to name names and give out personal information.
If any of you have more questions i urge you to send me a PM and i will answer what I can
Many of you have been wondering what has been going on.. and unfortunately some people have been saying things that were not true but, presenting them as truth’s . For any and all panic and worry that this has all caused I am truly Sorry.
The issues at hand have been going on long before the demotions that were seen in game, and for the longest time I have been reluctant to talk about it too much due to the fact that it entailed happenings that were of a personal nature and I didn’t think that should be aired for all to see. But since some of those involved have made comments in public forums that were not true Im going to let you all know what has lead to where we are now.
Weeks ago I was approached by some guildies ( I will leave their names out for personal reasons) some officers and some not. About an issue they had with Mordos. The issues ranged from being treated by him in a disrespectful way, feeling that they were being intimidated in game, having things said to them in a hurtful/argumentative manner and abuse of power. As with all complaints I tried to gather information on what was being said (getting the facts from their side of the story) so I could approach Mordos with the complaints to see what he had to say and see if there was any merit to the complaints. I have always been Fair and impartial. Prior to talking with Mordos I talked with the other GL’s (Tree and Bill) because We as a “Trinity” leadership make decisions and decide how to approach things as a group… ( No Officer Channel Conspiracy as certain individuals have dubbed it). It was decided to be simple and approach Mordos and say “hey this is what has been told to us… what’s your side” so we did.
Now in Mordos’ defense he was unaware of some of the issues being brought forward.. therefore the was no way he could address them… We as Christians have a way to “ file a grienvance” against someone.. it is found in the book of Matthew 18:15-17
15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
If you don’t got to a person that is causing you an issue they can’t fix it.
After Mordos was confronted with this he started having some deep feelings about how his raid style carried over to how people thought of him (mean, intimidating, rude, ect. ect) in general. It was at this point he felt that scripturally and spiritually that if that is what he does because of raiding then he didn’t want to lead raids. ( Not what I wanted to hear but, I respect his view and his wishes) Both Tree and I told him to think about that and pray before HE decided to step down ( again that is not what anyone wanted Mordos is an awesome raid leader and I have said that time and time again)
Now fast forward to Monday night. We raided EoE 25 man and then after some difficulty we moved to Os 25man. It was during the first moments during the OS raid that I was getting bombarded with whispers from some guildies as to why someone wasn’t invited to the raid.. cause the raid was not full.. I then asked Mordos if this person was on a raid suspension that I didn’t know about and I got no answer.. I then asked Gobby is this person on a Raid suspension she said I don’t know “so an so” ( name left out) said he was… Well at that point I told Gobby that since the raid was not full and he was the only one on the list to invite this person to the raid. I would rather invite the person so they could raid that night and find out after all that he was on suspension than find out we “guild leadership” dropped the ball and because we did that person didn’t get in.. ( I have ALWAYS tried to keep things fair for all people even at the expense of not being like among all) after a few pulls I got a whisper from Mordos that stated “demote me now please please” after I received that I did the “..please please” to me was an indicator that this was really not something he wanted anymore… so I did it there on the spot.. This is a game and I do not want this game to be any hardship or distress to anyone at any time. As soon as I did that I got a whisper from Gobby that said “me too” I didn’t get back to her because not only were we in the middle of one of the Drake fights, I was getting whispers from other people… It was then when I recived Gobby’s second whisper that stated “ demote me too please” when I had time I did.
I would like to go on record that, that night was very hard for me I just had two people who I considered friends step away from something that they loved to do for reasons that they apparenty were under stress or hurt from… Both Gobby and Mordos have done a lot for this guild Mordos has done some pretty amazing things with us in raiding and Gobby has always done fun events that make us all laugh and enjoy each other’s company.
After the raid that night I promoted Samboe to head raid leader. I did not do this out of disrespect or anger to Mordos, I did it in the attempt to keep things going for Redeemed as Raiding is what it likes to do and give Samboe the tools and in game functions that he need to do so while we sorted this whole thing out.. I made this promotion on a Temporary basis we needed someone to fill Mordos’ position while we figured out what was gonna happen next… It was my hopes that it would give Mordos some time to cool down. That evening I told samboe in vent that this would be temporary and that WE needed his help till we figured things out.
This.. is what happened.. No Conspiracy or plots by by the officers
This Incident happened because some people came to me and the other guild leads with and issue ( although they could have resolved it with Mordos first but some felt intimidated and non the less.. they came to us for help) and I and the guild leads attempted to address it.
again I'm Sorry that this is a little late but i wanted to make sure that I could give you all what happened without having to name names and give out personal information.
If any of you have more questions i urge you to send me a PM and i will answer what I can
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