Please explain why gay marriages are wrong.

[Spyro Chan]

I often find myself wondering, why are gay marriages wrong?

Quote[/b] ]...For all have come short of the glory of God...

This states that all sins are equal, so should liars not be permitted to speak.?
Greedy not permitted to own money?

 

[LionOfJudah]

context is king use basic herminutical knowledge.

Point me to the part of the Bible that says Gods creations weren't given the ability to evolve please.


God made us in his own image, since when did you make something in your own image and let it grow, from a picture made up of some chemicals on a dead piece of paper, into its own being that it totally different than you.

 

[Kidan]

it's quite simple. God ordained marriage as a union between a man and a woman. and then he makes it clear that homosexuality is sin.

This is why gay marriages are morally wrong.



Now the funner question, why are gay marriages socially wrong?

The answer because it's not an appropriate nor best environment for rearing children. Children function best in a two parent (1 mother, 1 father) household. This fact places gay marriages and divorces in the same category as damaging to children which hurts us both as a society and as a species.

 

[Eon]

Was that a cry for illegalisation of Divorce? Because if you think that a Single Parent family is a bad environment for a child, you should see a disfunctional marriage, my friend...

 

[Atown]

both are tuff situations, yet through these situations it really depends on the childs choices. these things will be factord in, but the ultimate action is up to the child. and ur going off topic with

Quote[/b] ]Was that a cry for illegalisation of Divorce? Because if you think that a Single Parent family is a bad environment for a child, you should see a disfunctional marriage, my friend...

 

[Eon]

Quote[/b] ]This fact places gay marriages and divorces in the same category as damaging to children which hurts us both as a society and as a species.

I apologise, it seemed to me that the scope of the topic had been widened by the above post. As I don't have any experience with same-sex relationships - although I'm not a hater, I'm almost entirely heterosexual in my leanings - I do have experience with dysfunctional relationships.

 

[Kidan]

imo the idea of gay marriages falls under failed marriage types (such as single parent and divorced homes)

While divorced should not be utterly illegal, it should not be as easy to acheive one (i.e. the no-fault divorce). Just because the parents are to fond of each other is no reason to destroy a child, the child's well being should come before the parent's happiness.

 

[Spyro Chan]

Quote[/b] ]The answer because it's not an appropriate nor best environment for rearing children.  Children function best in a two parent (1 mother, 1 father) household.  This fact places gay marriages and divorces in the same category as damaging to children which hurts us both as a society and as a species.

Did you know that my father died when I was six and neither of them were married? I'm fine thank you very much Mr. HolyMan, and would you rather be taken in by a loving homosexual couple than living on the streets, or being abused, or in an orphanage etc...
Perhaps you should start viewing people has humans and not orientations

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Did you also know that some cultures supported homosexuals and were the most powerfull?
The Greeks, Arabians, etc...
Even Zeus had a male lover named Ganymede in Greek mythology.

Quote[/b] ]God made us in his own image, since when did you make something in your own image and let it grow, from a picture made up of some chemicals on a dead piece of paper, into its own being that it totally different than you.

Since now, and God didn't create all species in his image, infact only man was :/.
Adam -> Canaan went into the land of Nod where people where(perhaps souless evolution of primates?) -> Now(Children are born without molers, taller, and have a better understanding of the world around them and much higher intelligence.)

 

[CCGR]

homosexuality is a sin in the bible and an abomination to the Lord it is not biblical and not natural. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't don't want anything to do with their lifestyle. they don't need my acceptance but God's.

 

[LionOfJudah]

Spryo Chan could you please re-state your rebuke to my question, the grammar is really bad, and makes it hard to follow.

 

[Atown]

yeah i agree with lion i dont quite get ur post. also, i believe CCGR has just answerd ur question Eon

 

[Spyro Chan]

Well I'm sorry if plain English isn't good enough for you.
What I'm stating is man is going under an evolutionary change at this very moment, its been viewed
and documented.
In the Bible, it states that man was not created immediatly after creation(14 Billion years ago the unvirse was created, 4.5 Billion years ago Earth was created.), surely God create base creatures that over the years evolved into a creatures suitable for man, at that point Adam and Eve were created.
As we all know the store of Abel and Cain(Oops wrong name), that Cain slew his brother and God told him to go into the land of Nod(Which I assume is modern Europe). In the land of Nod he started his own nation,
obviously he had to have found people there to do so. I believe that these people are ones that came before Homosapiens, just like us but less advanced and soulless.
And I as I stated CCGR I believe Homosexuality is a gene mutation, just like red hair. Now you can choose not to have red hair and dye it, but no matter what its still their but you don't say you have red hair, do you get my point?
Simply because the gene mutation that sparks homosexuality is there, doesn't mean you have to so, if you do act upon then you fall into the sin of homosexuality.

 

[Kidan]

so are you saying that you would not have been raised better with your father around?

 

[Spyro Chan]

Quote[/b] (Kidan @ Dec. 10 2003,2:39)]so are you saying that you would not have been raised better with your father around?

Re-explain in English.
Yes, why my father was a good man, I'm happy the way things are now.

 

[CCGR]

so Spyro you think we are evolving into homosexuality? well gee if everyone does that our species will surely end. I don't think that's God's plan.

there are many cases of homosexuals becoming Christian and marrying the opposite sex. As well as heteros changing to the homosexual lifestyle. How is this genetic??

please send us proof on homosexuality being geneitc as many of the studies were frauds.

 

[Atown]

uuh yeah,. geneatic mutation is a bit far off in my opinion since its our own choice to be a homosexual or not. genes nor past dont really matter its ur ultimate choice and is that choice right with God. technically the Bible says homosexuality is wrong. now can we resist genetic urges, i belive yes we can.

 

[Spyro Chan]

Erm no, the evolution debate and homosexual debate are two diffrent things :b.

 

[Atown]

ooh. shows how much i know . i'll have to re-read this again.

 

[Avesther]

Quote[/b] (Spyro Chan @ Dec. 10 2003,3:32)]Erm no, the evolution debate and homosexual debate are two diffrent things :b.

You "married" these very different and distinct arguements in your previous post.

As for homosexuality being a gene mutation, they have found no prove of this. Even after mapping the whole of the human male genome, there is no evidence whatsoever that homosexuality is carried in the genes like red hair.

 

[Que Pasa]

This is just playing devils advocate, and it's intent is to foster a healthy debate.

Lets say that homosexuality is not binary, throwing out the either you are or you aren't argument. Lets say that there are several gene combinations that contribute to a propensity for homosexuality. This is also evidenced by bi-sexuality, they're half homosexual, half heterosexual.

I still side with Homosexuality being a lifestyle choice and not a genetic trait or propensity, but I have been often shut down by that argument. Anyone care to shed light on it?