Avesther
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Just throwing this out there:
Describe Eternity.
Describe Eternity.
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Eternity is a single point(God) made up of an endless past/unending future where time does not exist.
In terms of what?
Just throwing this out there:
Describe Eternity.
If time does not exist, why use time references? (enless past/unending future, are references to time.)
Jesus IS the Eternal LifeJohn 3:12-14
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
We recieve this Life by Faith in His Holy NameJohn 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
Eternity is His dwellingJohn 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
1 Timothy 6:12
Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
Heaven!2 Corinthians 5:1
Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.
Where ALL Christian are right this moment!Luke 17:20-22
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Hebrews 12:4-9
4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved![]()
6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[toj.cc]phantom;180292 said:I can't remember where I heard this from, but here goes.
Imagine a beach with a huge pile of sand at one end. A bird takes one grain of sand in its mouth and moves it to the other side. Once the pile is moved to the other side completely, that is the first second of eternity.
well, the point seems to be that the pile never ends... I'm not sure if the spacing will stay with the post... but here's a simple diagram:
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...and so on. there are 4 grains of sand in my example, yet the bird's job of moving the pile is truly never complete.
Not according to what he said, "Imagine a beach with a huge pile of sand at one end. A bird takes one grain of sand in its mouth and moves it to the other side. Once the pile is moved to the other side completely, that is the first second of eternity."
[toj.cc]phantom;180764 said:But then he moves the pile back again then again and again, and again, and again. The bird never stops.
If we enter into eternity, this implies we have a starting point in eternity. This would mean we do not have an eternal past. Without an eternal past, can we say we truly entered into eternity?
I see two possible answers to this:
1. We are already in the eternal realm in some fashion
2. The concept of past, present and future are elements of time, not eternity.
Are there other answers? Or, you can choose to pick one of the above answers and discuss it.
Acts 7:49 KJV
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Ecclesiastes 3:11 NIV
11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
Luke 17:21 NIV
nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."
micah 5:2 NIV
2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times."
Isaiah 9:6 NIV
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
John 10:28 NIV
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.