DPS warrior

This is what I would go with Rhys. 31/30/0

It you can swap a lot of the talents for other ones. I choose the PvP side for this one. The main points need to be in MS, Imp Slam, and Flurry. Other than that it's personal preference. Unless you are pulling aggro you won't have enough rage to dump it with Heroic Strikes so you can even choose Parry instead of Imp HS. Just my 2 cents.
 
My Warrior is 69. I will go Mortal Strike build for PvP once I hit 70.

If you want pure PvE dps Fury is a much better build from what I have seen and heard.
 
You can look at Deed's spec in my sig. I'm Kara OT spec, Arms/Prot. (2.3 changes to MS threat will be hawt.)
 
I predict this is what you will find:

MS is great for pvp and pre-raid pve. DW Fury is better for raiding. Why? because MS is high burst dmg and in 70L 5 mans your high front load dmg will pwn before most other raid specced toons have a chance to build dmg. In raids, you might see your self initally high on the charts, but quickly fall below raid specced dmg dealers. Talk to Scott, last time I checked this is what was happening to him. It's not that important when raid instances are on farm status and you are over-geared, but for new places where gear is equal to or less than the challenge ahead it's an issue.

Test both builds out. (But for dw fury you have to know how to out-put dmg, lots of buttons to push)There was a time when I first started raiding with Tinie's group that my dmg was #1-2.
I've also been able to OT with my pure DW fury specc and threat is not much of an issue if the prot warriors target is first to die.

Danny
 
I never got into fury. So gear dependent. And it plays like a gimped rogue. Arms just requires a good weapon. But yeah, it doesn't scale as well as fury in the long run. But I already have 2 pure DPS 70's, so I don't mind :-)
 
Ms is gimped vs. Dw fury for raid dps. (unless gear is very un=) If rhys wants the best raid dps he can get with his warrior and still be a viable tank: DW fury. And in his case, he already has the gear/stats to pull both off. It's not hard to get pre-kara. Unfortunately I don't see a ton of fury gear in kara.

But yeah, if he wants a pure dps class a warrior is not it. Roll a rogue or other toon.
 
Woven said:
Ms is gimped vs. Dw fury for raid dps. (unless gear is very un=) If rhys wants the best raid dps he can get with his warrior and still be a viable tank: DW fury. And in his case, he already has the gear/stats to pull both off. It's not hard to get pre-kara. Unfortunately I don't see a ton of fury gear in kara.

But yeah, if he wants a pure dps class a warrior is not it. Roll a rogue or other toon.
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Warriors are great pvp dps classes (especially as arms), but for pve it's really only fury. To excel as a fury dps warrior you have to watch your threat like a hawk and be very careful to not break CC/get aggro on alternate mobs with whirlwind.

I don't mean to say this in a way that hurts anyone's feelings, but imo any dps class/spec that doesn't have an aggro dump is not a true pve dps class in this game. Without an aggro dump you simply can't do as much dps as other classes. Also warriors fight up close which means they can pull aggro with 110% of the tank's threat... ranged dps can go up to 130% w/o pulling aggro.

What I mean by this is that the tank's threat determines how much dps you can do without getting aggro. DPS classes today rely on threat reduction in order to effectively go beyond the 110-130% of the tank's generated threat for that fight. This is especially true for boss fights. For example on my warlock on a boss fight I can shed 50% of my aggro mid fight and then go all out for the 2nd half of the fight knowing that I won't pull aggro. The warrior has to continue to hold back so as to not pull aggro.

These are the primary snap threat reduction tools in the game:

Mages have invisibility (100% aggro dump, over 5 secs), and IB (temporary aggro drop)

Hunters have Feign Death (100% aggro dump, instant)

Rogues have Feint (20% aggro dump), and Vanish (100%? aggro dump, not sure... at worst it just works like ice block in that it can shed aggro as long as in stealth).

Warlocks have Soul Shatter (50% aggro dump, instant), if demonology with an imp out they can also have a constant 20% reduction in threat.

Priests have fade (aggro shed on a cooldown, instant)... though this might just be a temporary drop in threat. Still it's something.

Sadly warriors have only death. With the new content their armor is almost worthless, as they will still get dropped in 2-5 shots (depending on the mob). They are about as fragile as every other dps class now.

The way things are setup now, only classes with snap threat reduction can top the dps meters on boss fights... unless you have this amazing tank that generates so much threat that everyone can go all out w/o having to use a threat reducing ability (which rarely happens in my experience).
 
To excel as a fury dps warrior you have to watch your threat like a hawk and be very careful to not break CC/get aggro on alternate mobs with whirlwind.
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It doesn't matter much on lvl70 5man trash (aggro on single mobs)(We have a few tricks also: piercing howl, hamstring, intervene & Ishout when safe) It only matters if that trash/boss can 1-3 shot you. You also have to mash a lot of buttons and know how to out-put your dmg.

Without an aggro dump you simply can't do as much dps as other classes.
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This is true primarily..because Blizz didn't design warriors max contribution to be pve raid dps :)

And although a few things help (Blessing of salv, good tank)our dps is more gimped on raid *boss* fights and *some* harder than normal trash mobs, because we have no aggro dump. It's not really a huge issue with mobs that are tauntable that don't 1-3shot us if tank/ healing is alert. It is however certain death on untauntable elites. But that situation is difficult for other classes too. Rogues can also be one-shotted. (though they should be less likely to pull aggro:>fient) They may not even have time to hit vanish or it might be on cool-down. Aggro managment is a team effort.

As for your definition of "true" dps classes. No one should be "hurt" by that truth lol.. If you are, take a break from the game. Blizzard didn't design warriors max contribution to be pve dps.(They have a dps tree.) However this doesn't mean with skill/gear warriors can't contribute solid dps. So if you already have a lvl 70 warrior (rhys) and want to go pve dps, you can and in a guild like this you are much more likely to find a spot. I did.

Danny
 
Most my comments on dps warriors have more to do with heroics/raids. Since before that the mobs hit pretty soft... and you can get away with pulling aggro.
 
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