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  1. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Well the site is called Elitist Jerks you should expct high standards.:D Seriously though I looked at some of the posts about hunters in the LK beta and some of the nerfs they did to Surv. The posters were saying they would get warned and might even get banned for those posts, which they...
  2. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Wotlk should make it easier for guilds to see more content with every raid dungeon having both a 10 man and 25 man (heroic) option to it. We have had a tough time on numerous weeks to get a full 25 man run together (particularly with people who are geared for it), and are already setting up...
  3. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Ok I checked and your Armory and all 3 of you are generally at a lower gear level than I am which is probably the dps difference between us. You seem mostly in the T4-T5 range while Im at T5-T6. Being survival I had to find alternate routes to maximise my dps since most hunter raid gear was...
  4. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    I didn't armory you so I dont know how your gear compares to mine but 1000 dps seems to be low for surv. Ive been running in the 1100-1200 range. L&L spikes will push me to 1200 otherwise I tend to hover closer to 1100 more. Your results are typical of what most hunters have found though, and...
  5. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Oh Boimli dont feel bad about the whole Hunting Party thing a friend of mine put a link in on this site www.talentchic.com, which looks at the builds of different classes/specs and lists which are the most popular (theory being they are the best cause of popularity). If you check out Survival...
  6. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Ok for MM shot rotations you are looking at this: Serp, Chrimera, (5-6) steady shot, chrimera, (5-6) steady shot,... If you have the Glyphs for TSA (+12% crit on Aimed) and Aimed Shot (-20% mana) then it pays to weve Aimed shot in there also. At that point it also pays to spec into Barrage and...
  7. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Buimli I just looked at your spec on the armory and spotted 1 thing (well 2 things actually). With your crit rate you dont need 5 points in Hunting party, 2-3 will keep it up virtually the entire time during any boss fight (particularly when raid buffed). The other thing is cause Autoshots...
  8. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Keep in mind 1 thing when doing things like MH. Volly degrades the durability on your ranged weapon. Before the patch this was never a factor since we never used it. Now though it does reduce weapon durability and can potentially break your weapon, which if that happened right before a boss...
  9. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Here are the pet changes that either went through on tues or are going to go through soon: Swipe (Bear) focus cost reduced from 25 to to 20. Damage increased (60-84 to 90-126 for Rank 6) Snatch (Bird of Prey) focus cost reduced from 40 to 20. Gore (Boar) focus cost reduced from 25 to 20...
  10. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Untill today using a cat was fine they did some of the best dps in the game as far as pets went cause of Rake and its stacking ability. If it happens this patch or one that hits shortly non exotics like cats are going to be getting a nerf. Blizzard wants exotics doing about 10% more dps than...
  11. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Hehe I have almost forgotten what Viper was I use it so little, ok let me rephrase that I havent used Viper since 3.0 barring a few tests on target dummies and 1 mana burn on the Moross fight in Kara (the rogue was a bit slow on the kick). Been through all of ZA and sat in Hawk the entire time...
  12. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Numerous tests from lvl 80 raiding guilds have both MM and BM doing essentially the same dps. MM should beat BM now because if you go after the 51 pt talent (and it is pets like Devilsaurs and Spirit Beasts taht are topping pet dps charts) then you wont be able to get at GftT till Wrath hits...
  13. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Thankfully i have friends that can make the old +hit scope from MC. It really annoyed me when Blizzard moved the +hit from my spec with a month left in raiding. Once WotLK hits the +hit wont matter while we are leveling, and we will be regearing up all over again so we would be able to...
  14. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Ok it looks like the armory finally got caught up to me (mostly). Move the 3 points in Sniper Training over to MT and you have my current build (I respecced last night). http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderhorn&n=Dragonhawke
  15. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    All the specs are pretty awsome. We ran ZA last night with both a ret paly and me and between the 2 of us kept the raid above 40% the entire night. Atm both MM and BM are outdpsing Surv, but not by alot. TSA going raid wide is really sweet and will push me into the 3500s on RAP. I finally...
  16. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    This is my armory link though it is obviously behind http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderhorn&n=Dragonhawke. ATM it is showing me as MM which I ran some trials on with the target dummies in IF. If it doesn't update by the time you look at it this is my current Surv spec...
  17. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    One of the things I like about Surv is never having to go into Viper. We did a ZA run the other night and never went into Viper once. Hunting Party also kept our healers going on one fight when they were going oom and couldnt drink cause of potion sickness (yes its in).
  18. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Well I tried out both Surv and MM on my main and I think I will leave him Surv. I'm only pulling in about 50-80 dps below what I was doing as MM and hunting party is awsome. I was going around 3-4 min (still need to measure an exact time) before going OOM and needing to switch to Viper. With...
  19. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    I'm going to stay Surv for now. They seemed to have buffed the Explosive Shot damage a bit so that the DPS is now a bit more compareable to MM. Also thanks to the "Potion Sickness", replenishment classes are going to be in very high demand for raids. This is going to be my Surv spec for now I...
  20. Dragonhawk

    wotlk spec

    Right now the 2 most popular MM builds i'm seeing posted are these two: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cZMeVbMAzMxoxzAoe00b this ones heads up the surv tree and would lean more towards PvP, and picking up Scatter Shot early. http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cxbZMeVbMAzMxoxzAoh This heads...
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