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Uh, yes? Of course I see that Jesus being the Son of God is the belief that underpins Chrisitanity, and that validity of Christianity depends on the truth of that belief. However, that's not we were discussing. We were talking about proving that Jesus is the Son of God. The liar, lunatic or lord...

Good question, Jango! You don't actually know what's true and what's not. That's where faith: belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence, comes into the picture. And using the Bible to prove the Bible doesn't really work. You see that, don't you?

Shrug. Not really. It just annoys me when people say things like God seems to think differently without providing anything else to show that to be the case. I know what you're saying though.

Haha, I guess you lose if you're not prepared to support or explain these objections to anyone.

I particuarly liked: Do we have any anti-homosexual marriage supporters who are willing to defend and argue for this document?

Mahfrot, the site you provided seems to be saying in essence that liar, lunatic or lord? doesn't provide logical proof of the validity of Christianity, nor was it intended to by Lewis. Rather, it was provided to answer the questions of those who accepted Christ as a good moral teacher but not as...

Thanks, and yes, on the grey background I do find it hard to read.

Here's a summary as summarized by the brochure itself: But wait; there's more! Section headings and a paragraph (sections usually have about three) directly from the section iteself: <brochure> A Man and His Horse It seems the state of Missouri is not prepared to indulge a man who waxes...

I'm not that familiar with Islam, but I'll take Mohammad as an example. My understanding is that he claimed to be a divine prohpet speaking for God. Clearly, anyone who claims to speak for God is either insane, lying or telling the truth. Mohammad and his followers risked and even gladly...

I don't see how Huns would help you that much. I'm unfamiliar with Hero Fest, though, so you're probably right. How good are you at plain random map?

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. Don't be so harsh on yourself. I'm not suggesting (as you are) that you're an idiot - I'm just fairly certain you don't understand what I wrote. At least, given your replies, I hope you didn't read and understand my post. I would feel very sorry for you...

And could you answer my question?

Mahfrot, what stops us from using the trilemma of liar, lunatic or lord to conlude that Mohammad, or cultists who risk much and seem coherent are telling the truth? Master~Plan I suggest you go back and read what I wrote in context before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. Read &gt...

You're a funny, funny man, Corpfox.

Uhhh, okay. You were saying that I'm becoming informed? Thank you (I think). You're kind of hard to understand, though. Do you always write like this? Oh, and yes - the cardboard tube samurai would absolutely destroy your avatar.

Jango Is this supposed to be an analogy? If so, it depends on the 42 children being intent on killing Elisha, and Elisha saving the lives of at least 42 other people in order to break even. He may have; I'm not sure, but either way, it doesn't make much difference, since the question needs to...

Sorry, Corpfox. The way you phrased your comment, plus the lack of a quote made me think you were refering to something else I'd said. Are the them you keep refering to Christians? If so, my situation's a little more complex than that. Thank you, Eon. That's exactly it - you put it well.

If I die a Christian and go to 'hell', then the two main posibilities that come to mind are; the god I believed in wasn't the true god - the true god could have been Allah or the easter bunny... or that God is sadistic and was lying when he said that mankind could achieve salvation. If it was...

What makes you think that I'm a Christian or that I don't understand what the Bible is saying? I haven't said anything specific either way.

I read it. If you're not looking for discussion, why'd you post it here?