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The big difference though, is that you don't punish the salvation army if they refuse your gift. If one were to refuse Jesus' gift, they are given the most possible punishment imaginable.

So he punished us for not being Christian enough by killing 3,000 people and destroying the world trade center? Wow, guess we better do what he wants or who knows what tragedy is next. Also I'm not sure that the nation has been becoming more Christian since then at all, that big court case in...

Do you feel the same way in conflicts we lose? Was god against us being in Veitnam? Was god on the side of Bin Laden on September Eleventh? If what you are saying is true, and god does infact take sides in human conflicts (which I'm suggesting he does not), then how do you explain those examples?

Well thats not the way I read it. You cross into very dangerous territory when you start to believe god is on your side in war, because it means you can naver be wrong. Just because America wants something doesn't mean god wants it. Most of Europe is Christian yet they (for the most part) oppose...

You're talking like she's been acquitted or something, the trial is still going on but she will most likely be convicted. Her own daughter who was IN the car with her testified against her.

Please please please don't make this war into a Christians vs the others. This is NOT another crusade, and if you change "jesus" to "mohammed" in that post it could EASILY be something one of those Islamic fundamentalist terrorists would have said. This "war" is NOT about religion, and we should...

Like he said, it's not the end that matters. I think it makes our life here on earth all the more important and precious if there is nothing after it. Instead of our lives being simply waiting to be called to heavan (or hell) for eternity, eternity is much longer than I want to be around, even...

Dumb and Dumber right?

Do I need to be black to be offended by the Ku Klux Klan? Faulting homosexuals for AIDS is irresponsible and bigoted. It's a total myth that gay men carry AIDS, that certainly isn't true nowadays. The disease is caused by sharing most bodily fluids with another person (blood, semen, etc...)...

A perfect example that having faith that you have all the answers isn't unique to those with religion. You have no more proof Christians are wrong than they do they're right.

Actually I think I recognize that quote from an old Carry Grant movie from like the 30's, don't remember the name of the movie though.

Even if it could lead to the curing of deadly diseases, and allow organ transplants to many people desperatly in need?

Ultima Avatar this is possibly the most enraging post I've ever read on these forums. I'm really trying not to say much because I could easily give an innapropriate response while I'm this mad. Let me just say that it's people who say things like that, like you, who give Christianity a bad name.

What if its a religious themed tatoo? A Jesus fish or an "I heart Jesus"? I've seen stuff like that displayed in churches.

Bowing knees is much more than a sign of mere acknowledgement.

Boy thats one bible quote that isn't even close to being true, never in the history of humankind has there even been more Christians than not.

I don't have a problem with the idea, but this particular one I think would do more harm than good to children who read it. It perpetuates an "us versus them" attitude, and steryotypes to the point of untruth what non christians are. The athiest abuses women, the homosexual abuses drugs, the...

How convenient, I've read the same thing about your book being defuct as well though. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you would dismiss it without even reading it.

You guys ever read books that DONT just reinforce what you already believe? Just curious because there are lots of good ones out there, some good ones I can think of are: <u>Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist </u>by Dan Barker. <u>Atheism: The Case Against God </u>by George H. Smith

The point here is that they object to preaching in the streets without their permission period. It's not an issue WHAT you are preaching (unless its something in support of the government anyway), they heavily regulate what can be said over there, you cant start preaching ANY religion or any...