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The main point of difference between the fictional worlds of games involving hell and those outside fiction is that in game there is no "pray for salvation" button. If there was, the game would be a whole lot easier.

When you say that the word "hell" in the Bible always refers to this world is where you are in error. Matthew 5:22 Matthew 5:29 Matthew 5:30 Matthew 10:28 Matthew 18:9 Matthew 23:33 Mark 9:43 Mark 9:45 Luke 12:5 Luke 16:23 2 Peter 2:4 Those are MOST of the references I can find in the Bible...

When you say that the word "hell" in the Bible always refers to this world is where you are in error. Matthew 5:22 Matthew 5:29 Matthew 5:30 Matthew 10:28 Matthew 18:9 Matthew 23:33 Mark 9:43 Mark 9:45 Luke 12:5 Luke 16:23 2 Peter 2:4 Those are MOST of the references I can find in the Bible...

Incorrect. CS IS a mature game, due to the images portrayed within. The CS community, on the other hand, is NOT mature. They are mostly "OMG1337" kiddies.

I can't play against you lot. I have the PAL version. But when Halo 2 comes out, I am "Ross Mills"

Has anybody here got XBox Live? If so, what are your gamertags? Mine is "Ross Mills"

Well then you can blame the parents and the stores.  Id didn't make this game for kids!  You can be assured that 18 (or R) rated movies aren't made FOR kids! I don't know... I haven't bought music with that sticker... I rarely buy music.   I have about 3 or 4 CDs... and they're most of what I...

No... no it can't. I don't know how it works in America, but in England it's classed by the BBFC as an 18. Therefore ILLEGAL to supply to under 18's.

More like we live in a "Christian" culture (note the speech marks) therefore "They come from hell" is a very easy excuse to shoot some demons.

...seeing as you haven't attempted to mod the Half Life 2 engine... and you haven't attempted to mod the Doom 3 engine. I see your point as null and void. You have no experience of either.

If there is something obviously FALSE (by accident or otherwise) in the review, then surely we can post here and say "By the way... this isn't quite true... The review is void if based on these 'facts'" As far as I can see, the first post in this thread makes some very valid points. Some not so...

It's not my trite tastes... I do believe in the signup for this forum it asks you to be careful with your language or something. ... wouldn't I see the green grass as a kind of gray-y colour with rose tinted glasses? Poor metaphor I am insulted that you see my Lord and his way that he has...

Actually it sounds more like a biased opinion from YOU. I've nothing wrong with D&D as long as people have the sense to seperate fantasy and reality. And as long as it doesn't become more important than my God. You know, you'd come off a lot more convincing if you'd write things without...

http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmprmill/mmwv.jpg *cough* No offence to anyone... I was actually reading the real book myself.

http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmprmill/mmwv.jpg *cough* No offence to anyone... I was actually reading the real book myself.

In Painkiller? YOU use them to save, YOU use them to finish the level, it's the symbol on the level selection screen. I was talking about Painkiller :-) And I started Doom 3 an hour and a half ago. It rocks, but I need more RAM :-) Plus... it rocks. Scary in the best ways possible :-)

In Painkiller? YOU use them to save, YOU use them to finish the level, it's the symbol on the level selection screen. I was talking about Painkiller :-) And I started Doom 3 an hour and a half ago. It rocks, but I need more RAM :-) Plus... it rocks. Scary in the best ways possible :-)

It's not just the symbols, it was the sense that you were on the side of those symbols, and there wasn't really a sense of a good story.  It was sorta "Shoot some stuff and run through some pentagrams while pretending to be on God's side, lather, rinse, repeat". Doom 3 is "Story" On a side...

It's not just the symbols, it was the sense that you were on the side of those symbols, and there wasn't really a sense of a good story.  It was sorta "Shoot some stuff and run through some pentagrams while pretending to be on God's side, lather, rinse, repeat". Doom 3 is "Story" On a side...

There is one level... later in the game... that will freak you out BIGTIME! I dunno if you've heard of it... but if you feel wierded take a step back, press esc, and just think of what God would want you to do maybe... or ask for God's protection from imagery... or both.