so... dota 2?
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eraserhead17
Tribe of Judah League of Legends Chapter Leader
Tough learning curve, this one has...
DannyMeister
Tribe of Judah Unreal Tournament 3 Server Operator
They kept around the ol legacy intelligence, strength, agility system that is just broken compared to LoL. Only your attack damage scales by buying your core stat... but who cares about attack damage on an int hero?? I can't believe they didn't decide to fix dota. They aren't shackled to WC3 any more, move on! Spells scaling on different stats in LoL is far better!
I do miss denying and several other aspects of the dota meta game, but I don't have enough time to play multiple moba's, so long as I have friends playing LoL I probably won't switch.
I do miss denying and several other aspects of the dota meta game, but I don't have enough time to play multiple moba's, so long as I have friends playing LoL I probably won't switch.
Strife412
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I just wish they'd make an option to turn off the audio that yells "HOLY S***!" in my headphones when somebody's racked up a lot of kills.
@ DannyMeister
the stat system is iconic to dota. literally all the items and characters and the balance the game has (which is impressive) is based on this.
@strife412
i agree.... there are announcer packs you can buy that will change this. unfortunately the previous sentence included the word "buy"
also i have almost fully turned from LoL for dota now. I have played a more than a few games with friends now. that being said if ANYONE wants to Play/Learn PLEASE PLEASE add me on steam my username is UncaPEtey
the stat system is iconic to dota. literally all the items and characters and the balance the game has (which is impressive) is based on this.
@strife412
i agree.... there are announcer packs you can buy that will change this. unfortunately the previous sentence included the word "buy"
also i have almost fully turned from LoL for dota now. I have played a more than a few games with friends now. that being said if ANYONE wants to Play/Learn PLEASE PLEASE add me on steam my username is UncaPEtey
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also danny.... sorry for the inc wall of text but this. (found this on dota2 reddit in response to the topic of snowballing games in dota vs snowballing in lol)
Comebacks are easier in Dota for a number of reasons. First, spells only scale with levels in Dota. If an enemy ganker, let's say Lina, is keeping your hard carry down by bursting them every time they come to lane, you will fall far behind. But once Lina hits level 16, she's not getting any stronger. She can buy a bunch of int items and have more disables but she doesn't do that much more damage. Meanwhile if your carry manages to get a couple items they can not only survive Lina's spells, but kill her and start coming back. Compare to League, where if an enemy kills you they come back and keep killing you with better spells and attacks, because everything scales.
On the other side of the coin this can work in favour of those early-game heroes. If the enemy Morphling gets big off your Lich/Enigma there is still hope. Abilities like Black Hole, Chain Frost, Ravage, etc can still have a big impact even when the enemy carry has been fed a bit. They will always retain some usefulness, so if you use those abilities well you can get things back under control and in your favour.
Another thing that changes how Dota snowballs is the cost efficiency of items. Compare an Ironwood Branch to an Ultimate Orb. 10 Branches would give you the stats of an Orb for a quarter of the price. The reason you pay so much for the Orb is to save inventory space and the hope that you can build it into a bigger item. So if someone gets fed and they go "yes, I can get my Ultimate Orb now!" it's not so bad. You can buy a cheap 530 gold item like a Bracer and be almost on par with them for the next little while. Even though you died, you're on equal ground until they get a big item. Components aren't that valuable.
However in League, expensive items are more cost effective than less efficient items. A BF Sword gives more ad per gold than a Pickaxe. In League a more expensive item is always better, which means someone who gets a couple of kills in lane is likely to snowball because their gold can be spent more efficiently. When someone in League gets a couple of kills and goes "yes, I can get my NLR now!" and you're still sitting on 900 gold it is a very hard situation to get out of. A Blasting Wand will be weaker than their purchase because more expensive=more power in League. There is no momentary weak period in their build. Add to that the fact that there are barely any cheap "I need some power RIGHT NOW" items in League and things will spiral out of control for a losing team.
Comebacks are easier in Dota for a number of reasons. First, spells only scale with levels in Dota. If an enemy ganker, let's say Lina, is keeping your hard carry down by bursting them every time they come to lane, you will fall far behind. But once Lina hits level 16, she's not getting any stronger. She can buy a bunch of int items and have more disables but she doesn't do that much more damage. Meanwhile if your carry manages to get a couple items they can not only survive Lina's spells, but kill her and start coming back. Compare to League, where if an enemy kills you they come back and keep killing you with better spells and attacks, because everything scales.
On the other side of the coin this can work in favour of those early-game heroes. If the enemy Morphling gets big off your Lich/Enigma there is still hope. Abilities like Black Hole, Chain Frost, Ravage, etc can still have a big impact even when the enemy carry has been fed a bit. They will always retain some usefulness, so if you use those abilities well you can get things back under control and in your favour.
Another thing that changes how Dota snowballs is the cost efficiency of items. Compare an Ironwood Branch to an Ultimate Orb. 10 Branches would give you the stats of an Orb for a quarter of the price. The reason you pay so much for the Orb is to save inventory space and the hope that you can build it into a bigger item. So if someone gets fed and they go "yes, I can get my Ultimate Orb now!" it's not so bad. You can buy a cheap 530 gold item like a Bracer and be almost on par with them for the next little while. Even though you died, you're on equal ground until they get a big item. Components aren't that valuable.
However in League, expensive items are more cost effective than less efficient items. A BF Sword gives more ad per gold than a Pickaxe. In League a more expensive item is always better, which means someone who gets a couple of kills in lane is likely to snowball because their gold can be spent more efficiently. When someone in League gets a couple of kills and goes "yes, I can get my NLR now!" and you're still sitting on 900 gold it is a very hard situation to get out of. A Blasting Wand will be weaker than their purchase because more expensive=more power in League. There is no momentary weak period in their build. Add to that the fact that there are barely any cheap "I need some power RIGHT NOW" items in League and things will spiral out of control for a losing team.
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Strife412
Member
I actually uninstalled it. I don't like getting sworn at. Other than that, it was at least worth learning and playing, but I'll be sticking with LoL. It's where my buddies from the Corps are at. It's something I already know how to play. The players/skills/items all make sense.
And I really like recall
And I really like recall
Tek7@Work
CGA President, Tribe of Judah Founder & President
Switching from LoL to Dota2 is going to be a harder sell for casuals than even for "hardcore" MOBA players. The style of game lends itself to negative experiences for new players and I don't see any motivation in switching games unless a players' friends were to move over first.
Azami
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The whole denying thing was what I never liked about it, but I played some dota in college and it was pretty good.