Teamspeak Troll isues

Waynos

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I was in the lions den channel yesterday and a user asked me if I could set a password for CGA's channels to assist with a group of 4 trolls yesterday that were harassing him.
I informed him I am just a member and have no authority to kick or ban anyone.
But I did direct him to the cga/TOJ forums
And told him if he posts a thread there maybe the staff will either set more admin powers to cover the channels when the admins are not on,such as daytime mornings to evenings or devise a password.
I agree with his concern on a few levels.
Keeping the channel family and Christian friendly would require always having some watching the Loe channels.
And a lot of people might get upset with what I'm about to say but it is my honest opinion.
1. If your not a TOJ member you have no business in the channels to start with.
If you want in our channels you need to first apply to TOJ.
This will allow Christians to be the only ones on the teamspeak and if there is an issue the TOJ/cga staff can address the user to stop the problem or take a disciplinary action if needed.
Its getting tiring having people come in yelling hail Satan and crap when my kid is on the channel.
This teamspeak is supposed to be like our guild, an escape from foul talk and family friendly atmosphere.
When we allow nonbelievers in the channel we leave the door wide open.
If it is really in your heart to witness to them then use your own instant messenger and if they become a believer and TOJ/cga member then they could join the channel.

the guild and teamspeak are supposed to be our safe zone..kinda like church it is our escape from the foul world.
so we can enjoy the games and fellowship and not worry about bad content.

These are just my opinions but I must say for the integrity of content I allow my 14 year old son to be exposed to, some changes need to be made or I think me and my son may be seeking out a more structured family friendly Christian environment.

Anyone else having same issues or thoughts?
 
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I was on when these guys entered. It was annoying since, naturally, I was using TeamSpeak to talk with a friend. I just simply muted them and we went on with what we're doing. Overall they didn't say anything that offended me or that I think would offend anyone else, given the context and demeanor, but I could certainly be wrong about that depending on the person.

I personally don't think having a password is a good idea for the TS server, but that's because I want to make sure that it's an open and friendly environment for all of us, our friends, and our family, and passersby to be in. In my mind, it does us less good to offer those kinds of protections.

I definitely understand concerns for one's self and one's family, but I think trying to shelter one's self from the world, especially as limited as these specific occurrences are, is not a good solution either.

Also, Waynos, frankly speaking, saying that you are going to leave over this if nothing is done about it is kind of weird. I hope you don't mean it, but 1. if so I trust that you understand that these kinds of things are going to happen, regardless of the environment and 2. if not, is kind of misleading.
 
Once again dodging the situation doesn't gain anything.

What is the point in TOJ having a Christian guild requiring you to be a saved believer and tossing all that out the window for passerby's to come and spew verbal filth at will on a Christian voice chat?
And I'm wrong for not wanting that around my kid or myself?
Am I wrong cause I don't want people calling my LORD filthy names?
Am I wrong cause when I joined those things were said to be not tolerated?

Maybe you should re-read the TOJ code of conduct rules or write new standards if your going to ignore the "family friendly" part of it.

In the last 2 weeks this has happened several times and no admins are available to help.

I fail to see any point defending that allowing passerby's in is a good thing.
You cant minister to trolls looking to criticize and make fun of Christianity
there are several other members fed up with the same thing.

This is ongoing and not just a one time thing I took out of proportion
 
It is an ongoing problem. In the evening there are several of us who can wield the ban hammer, but what happens during the daytime? Why should we wait until someone starts trolling with bad language before we hit them with the ban hammer? Ban hammer is nice, but it is often locking the barn door after the horses have escaped. At least give us a few password protected channels. I too would be upset to have underage children listening to the trash that is put out by the trolls that show up. I would hate it if Waynos and others gave up on our TS server because of trolls, that means the trolls would have won.
 
I have no problem adding more Channel Admins and, if necessary, Server Admins. Who is usually on during the daytime?

I still feel compelled to decline the request to password-protect the server. Neither Tribe of Judah nor the Christian Gamers Alliance are analogous to local churches for several reasons, but we are a group of believers; however, the CGA TeamSpeak Server is a publicly available resource and open to everyone willing to follow the rules. All those granted SA or CA rights have the authority and responsibility to enforce the server rules.

I'm still resistant to creating password-protected channels, but the presence of minors on the server does lend weight to the argument for such channels. I'd like to hear arguments from each side (for and against creating password-protected channels), but know that my leaning is toward not creating any more password-protected channels than absolutely necessary.

As a Christian organization, we are a lightning rod for trolls. (See John 15:18-25.) We are also called to show love and mercy to unbelievers so far as is reasonable. In working to create an environment that is both welcoming (and not closed) and as safe as is reasonable, we face constant challenges. These challenges do not show that leaders or members of ToJ have failed in either respect, but rather are consistently wrestling with the tension between protection and ministry.

Again, I'm ready to approve Channel Admin rights and, on a more limited basis, Server Admin rights to ToJ members and The Forgiven members in good standing. I would much rather enable more members to enforce the rules than raise the barrier of entry to the server.
 
I'm still resistant to creating password-protected channels, but the presence of minors on the server does lend weight to the argument for such channels. I'd like to hear arguments from each side (for and against creating password-protected channels), but know that my leaning is toward not creating any more password-protected channels than absolutely necessary.
I've created one password-protected channel for all of Tribe of Judah on the CGA TS Server. You'll find it beneath the LoE channels.

Guild officers can find the password for the channel in the Officers Forum. I'll leave it to guild leadership how to distribute the password among guild members.

I want to make it abundantly clear that I do not want people to use this channel to set up closed groups or cliques. I understand no member would start with that intention, but I have, like I imagine many of you have, seen the destructive nature of "closed circles" among Christians. In fact, this tendency is my foremost reason I'm so resistant to creating password-protected channels.

So please use the password-protected channel only when absolutely necessary and use public channels at all other times.

As Deuteronomy 10:19 says, "You also must love the foreigner, since you were foreigners in the land of Egypt."
 
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